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Golightly

Just saw on the BBC that Turkey is considering building its first nuclear power station near Sinop.
I cant help feeling that This Is Not A Very Good Idea.
but then again, as per posts passim,
'Bi'sey olmaz abi, bi'sey olmaz! hadi, o kirmizi dugmeyi bas!...'
Comments, opinions?

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

I think they were trying to push that idea about six or seven years ago. However, it was vetoed.

Mmmmmm....l think there are good and bad sides to the idea. Nuclear technology scares the hell out of me.. it always has. Having said that, Turkey needs to find an alternate way to power its ever expanding population and industry. The existing methods are just too costly for many reasons.

Hydro-electricity is seemingly eco-friendly. However, damming rivers completely destroys the natural ecology of a water way and its surrounding environs not to mention the human cost (they are going to flood Hasan keyif!!!!). Also, if your country's river systems begin and end within your own borders, damming them will only affect your own country. However, both the Euphrates and the Tigris continue to flow after Turkey's borders. Thus, restricting their natural flow is going to really bug Turkey's neighbours.

I don't think that l will even bother to mention coal power-plants.

Anyway, the good effects of a nuclear power plant would be the relatively eco-friendly power. Of course, there will be the waste, but at least we won't be pumping tons of rubbish into the atmosphere. It will create jobs. Perhaps we can sell the surplus to neighbours. Finally, it will help quench Turkey's power-hungry society. The bad effects would be the risk of damage to the plant by earthquakes, the cost of building the thing and probably most importantly the international scruntiny that Turkey will come under once it is nuclear capable.

What l would like to see is wind turbines. If we can handle the absolutely awful view of a light house, then l don't think that a few windmillesque structures are going to harm us too much. There are no side effects to them whatsoever.

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Maybe Turkey will be like Iran and only use nuclear power for peaceful purposes. Maybe this is all part of Erdogans plans for global power. Be afraid, very afraid.

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Au contraire, wind turbines are having terrible effects on nesting birds in the UK.

Golightly · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject:

yeah, your chicks fall out of the nest when the blades turn.

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

How are they affecting UK's birds?

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Cue DMB to provide a link to a BBC article about wind turbines affecting UK birds. Rolling Eyes

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

Thrifty, I am still waiting to hear about the birds. Bloody indian giver!!

P.S. sorry about the use of that very politically incorrect idiomatic phrase.

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

Thanks DMB!!

justme · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul

Damned liberals! Just can't leave well enough alone. Next it'll be that spotted owls carry bird flu and baby harp seals emit flatulence with dangerously high methane levels, causing global warming... Twisted Evil

justme · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul

(justme at work, nothing happening, 2 hours after arrival was told no reason to be here, infuriation levels.... rising...) Evil or Very Mad

Might as well bash the conservatives too-- supposedly one justification for not letting Iran have nuclear power is that they can't be trusted to guard the enriched uranium from all the yahoos who are jealous of our beautiful democracy. Oh, and the leaders of Iran appear to be yahoos. So our dear Bush prepares to march off to war with them too, although when Iran says something like, 'Oh, yeah? You and what army?' they kind of have a point.

Meanwhile, in Turkey, didn't they just discover a bunch of artifacts had been stolen? Granted, protecting artifacts isn't protecting enriched uranium....

So is Bush gonna bomb us too? Or are they gonna teach those gendarme near my house to do something besides drive around, comfort sad-looking gendarme-guys, and blow up suspicious suitcases on Sunday afternoons?

And why is it when North Korea (not only yahoos, but clearly insane) points missiles at America(n soil), they just say, 'Well, we can solve this with diplomacy,' then N. Korea's only demand is for Bush or someone to go there and meet them face-to-face, and they're all 'Hell, no we won't go meet those crazy North Koreans and eat their kim chee, we're America and we won't be pushed around into meeting with people!' and instead just fire up their old Star Wars weapons systems that had a 60% chance of shooting down missiles in the air, and re-test them because mostly everyone forgot how to work them, and proudly announce they now have an 80% chance of shooting down missiles in the air?

There are so many things that just seem so stupid to me.

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

National Geographic had a great piece about Chernobyl and its aftermath a couple of months ago. It is very scary to think if too much rain water seeps into the nuclear core, it could very well trigger another meltdown. The structure covering the site is slowly collapsing, but replacing the building is going to be exremely dangerous and a tad expensive.

tekirdag · Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 505

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5133840.stm

"Besides one of the busiest streets in Sinop a group of middle-aged ladies appeal for signatures.

They call themselves Mothers Against Nuclear Power. The women have been campaigning for several weeks now, ever since the Turkish government announced that Sinop had been approved as a possible site for the country's first ever nuclear power plant. "