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Where do the most arrogant students come from?
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a Rolling Stone wrote:
They all come from here:

http://www.vulvavelvet.org/imagessxz/the-clitoris.jpg


I would hardly call that a hellhole. If you do, you got some issues. Laughing
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Will.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrogance is learned at the parent's knee.
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ntropy



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh Inal Ovar wrote:
Where do the most arrogant students come from?


TESL courses
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most arrogant students, hmm... the Turkish must be in there somewhere. Never content to be in the level they're actually in, they miss the point by bullying their way into the next level.

I think Mexicans would be in with a chance if they weren't so crap at learning English. Same goes for Italians. Spaniards too though they take the award in the learning-English-with-a-face-like-a-smacked-arse category.

Lastly, I have to agree with Deconstructor. The Brazilian arrogance is legendary. God's own country, God's own people, God's own language--half of which is cleaning houses in London for 5 pounds an hour to buy a house on God's own beaches.
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

American are pretty high on the arrogance list.
I am somewhat limited in my experiences as I have taught only photography to the following nationalities.
Russian
Bulgarian
Thai
Singapore
Korea
Japanese
Malaysian
Indian
Senegalese
Colombians
Venezualans
Haitians
As for teaching English, only Mexicans

I would generalize that Asians from the Pacific Rim are the least arrogant by far. The hardest workers were from eastern Europe and generally charming.
The East Africans had very outgoing personalities and a very refreshing viewpoint. No arrogance there.

The Latinos were a mixed bag with a huge dialectical between extreme arrogance and those who put their nose to the grindstone and are respectful.

The Haitians are strange.

South Koreans are emotionally repressed.

I don't know if there is much truth. My sampling may be small and not worth much.

My Mexican students are very respectful to my person but not well behaved. University students will think nothing of walking around the room socializing during a lecture and talk on their cell phones.

The most problematic travellers I've met were Dutch and Germans, both of whom I have found to be cold and not the most friendly. Italians score at the opposite end of that scale.
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KiteBiker



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: a thought ... Reply with quote

here's a thought -

concerning arrogant teachers - does arrogance make them less effective?

Come on, now. No knee jerk reactions. Think a while. Is one person's arrogance another person's confidence? Is a certain level of arrogance necessary to maintain order and impart knowledge/methods?

I went through a few classes that had the Socratic Method ala Paper Chase. The instructor was a Witch with a capital B, but damn he was good. Made you think. Demanded the best of you.

I've also attended classes with what I consider to be odious excrements of arrogance as students yet they were favored by the teacher. Why?

Do I have something here or am I just another victim of "The Dictorship of Relativism"?
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Frontline



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three pages and nobody's said LIBYA?

To be fair... Libya is my particular nightmare nation at the moment but that is because students from that country fall into the category mentioned in several previous posts in this thread. Rich parents.
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