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t-dog · Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 8

Has anyone ever worked for EF in London? I haven't heard a lot of good things about it but was wondering if this was the general consensus. It's still Steve Allen running things over there.
Would appreciate any input about it.

T-dog

SandyM · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: An EF Wonderland...

T-dog, you should know that EF is the premier destination for the UK's top Teflers. They offer wonderful salaries, enviable working conditions, and you could not hope to meet a better team of dedicated colleagues there.

In fact, one of the reasons so many of them haven't written and told you this ... is that they don't want it to become common knowledge.

Why are you laughing like that?

[BTW, please wake me up at the next station...]

t-dog · Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 8

LOL! Thanks Sandy. I get the point =) Baptism of fire it is then.

SandyM · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: EF ... eeeeek!!!

Now be careful, t-dog - you're playing with the real big-hitters there. After all, with hourly rates like these...

�12.20 p.h. CELTA or equivalent
�12.85 p.h. DELTA or equivalent

...they probably attract those elusive Tefl-guru types who write books and internet articles in their free time.

Incidentally, what they are paying is actually less than I was earning at FE (and some EFL) colleges in London in the late 1990s! It is good to see how much they value a Delta, though - almost 5% more than a Celta! There's crackin', for yer!!

Sandy

SandyM · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: Even worse out in the sticks...

But wait, it gets even worse outside of London. Take a look at the following extract from their latest advert for a real laugh...

EF ILS Hastings is looking for enthusiastic teachers to start as soon as possible with work available until the end of August.

Compensation
�11.65 per contact hour/ DIP �12.00. Salary includes holiday paid pro rata.

What Diploma teacher on Earth would be 'enthusiastic' about earning twelve quid an hour - including holiday pay??!!

Sandy

t-dog · Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 8

Hi Sandy. You were right. Majorly not impressed and that was only the interview. I think I'll stick to what I'm doing and steer clear away =)
Know any schools that only deal with adults? I am now certain I am not one of those parental teachers these summer centres are looking for ;P

Frontline · Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 25

t-dog, do you feel like living in Brighton?

saint57 · Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:02 am Post subject:

SandyM, what is a good salary for someone with 1-3 months of training? I wouldn't take the job, but 12 quid sounds more than fair. I doubt I.H. pays $25 CDN in Toronto, Canada. $25/hour is more than most university grads will see for a long time.

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

Well Saint, �12 per teaching hour works out at about �8 per working hour when prep. etc is taken into account, and 37 or 40 X �8/hr will hardly pay the rent in London, or Brighton, and is appalling wages for a professional with a degree and post-graduate qualification.

Anyhow most London EFers I see seem to spend their days wandering round in EF T-shirts shepherding herds of disinterested teenagers through the tube in the manner of terminally depressed club 18-30 reps with little prospect of a double vodka every 30 mins to help them make it thru the day.

Beyond pity really.

lolwhites · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 158 Location: France

Saint - have you ever lived in London? Making comparisons with rates of pay in Toronto is just daft. A quick Internet search tells me that the going rate for a room in a houseshare in Toronto is 450 CAD pcm (around 210 GBP), while a comparable room in London starts at around 400 GBP (860 CAD).

The fact that 25 CAD per hour is a good starting salary in Toronto is neither here nor there; it does not affect the fact the 12 GBP per teaching hour in London is not enough to live on.