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koshechka · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: taxes

hello to all
my question is to those elusive ones of you who have visas. i am on my way, in two weeks time i shall have my cedula and be as happy as can be. but my question is, what next? how do i get boletas? i assume i need to go present myself to servicio de impuestos internos, which is somewhere on agustinas, but someone else told me that to start financial activity i have to go somewhere on manuel montt. any ideas? do i have to bring proof of residency, this is obviously impossible since i don't as of yet have a pin. anyway, thanks for your help.
p.s. i am getting all my stuff without a contract, through a letter that says that they have the intent of hiring me, this is the best since you are not then stuck working for the same people. ask me.
ciao

DianaMa · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 33 Location: Stgo, Chile

that's great that you're going after your visa, I'll start the whole process tomorrow and I'll try to let you all now how it goes. I will be getting my contract today (God willing) and then off I go, where I don't have the foggiest. I'll be getting all that info today. I've read that alot of you are miffed because some of us don't share information, so I'll do my best to share with some significant details.

me voy al tiro
ciao

Diana

later the same day......
false alarm guys, I'll have a contract next week, so I'll share then cheers...in the meantime getting a cell phone here is super easy, just bring cash and your passport to any cell phone counter (i got mine in farabella)

koshechka · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: sharing

i'm pretty good at sharing and yes, i have noticed that some people aren't. i would be glad to tell you, or anyone interested, about how i'm getting it all done. it's an alternate way through a letter "oferta de trabajo". after getting the visa finally stamped into your passport (this just happened last week) you should go to policia internacional which is on the other side of the mapocho river, on the level with bandera more or less, white building and there they give you a card which you have to take to the registration and passport office which is on moneda and something, it's a big government looking building. there you pay 3,000 more or less, they take your picture and your finger prints and in two weeks, this is where i am, you should be able to pick it up. then comes the boletas part which is what i asked about but nobody has of yet answered. i am not sure where i have to go to start activity. i know where to print the actual boletas but not what else i have to do.
ciao

eileen · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 71

I actually don't know about boletas, which is why I haven't answered. I will tell you that getting your 10% taxes back at the end of the year is not quite as simple as it seems. I had to have the accountant at my job do it for me. This was because I worked for a couple of months before I got my RUT, so they were taking taxes out, but then at the end of the year they should be returned if you don't make above the amount of money after which they make you pay taxes (around 700,000, I think).

I hope you find the information you're looking at. FWIW, to get my password (clave, contrase�a, whatever), I had to go to the impuestos internos on Santa Rosa, not in Manuel Montt. But this was not to get boletas, so who knows. Let us know what you find out!

koshechka · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: rut=cedula

what i don't understand is this, is rut the same as the cedula? and if not, why didn't they tell me to get my rut at the migracion? i went to get the cedula and they told me that i had to wait 2 weeks but i obviously need a rut to work as well. how did you, eileen, work without a rut? i am doing it through someone else's boletas and this person will eventually, hopefully, return me my taxes. which is the only way to go i thought. and yes, it is at santa rosa. i'm going to go on tuesday. what do i need to bring to get a rut and iniciar actividades?
thanks

vcautin · Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 6

Why don't you check www.sii.cl ?
You can iniciar actividades online. You just need your RUT or cedula number.
For boletas you just need your RUT which is the same as cedula, but you just need the number.

koshechka · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:50 am Post subject: sii

yeah, i knew that, but i don't get my cedula until next week and then someone scared me by saying that the rut and the cedula isn't the same thing and that i should have started with the rut from sii instead of the cedula, i don't know. a bit of misinformation i guess. anyway, thanks, next week i hope to have it all!!!!

vcautin · Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 6

Weel, that's technically right, RUT and cedula arent the same, but in the case of us "personas naturales" is the same number. It is only a different number for sociedades and empresas.

koshechka · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:28 am Post subject:

after i get my cedula which should be this wednesday, i will have to go to santa rosa or whatever that street is and ask to iniciar actividades? maybe i'll try to do it online first but since i don't really know much about taxes, it doesn't make too much sense to do it on my own and make a complete mess of it. thanks for your help
koshechka

DianaMa · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 33 Location: Stgo, Chile

Yes I know that I promised I would get back to you all but I had nothing to report. Turns out I only got my contract March 14th and I had to hurry and get everything else in order to send it in to Migracion by March 15.

Let's see, I guess I should begin at the beginnging. Companies here are obliged by law to give you your contract within 15 days of the first day you start working, so there is a bit of information for you. The problem is getting the contract. Its definetly a catch 22. You can get visas in chile without a contract but you more or less have to be a student. There are visas called "Visa de Residencia Sujeta a Contrato" which basically means you can stay if you have a contract. The problem is that the contract needs to have two very important clauses

1. the company will pay your airfare home if you default on the contract
2. the company will make all the payments to your health and cesantias program

needless to say this is not a commitment that a company wants to make with someone they don't know and who could take off at any moment.

this is the main web site
http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/

this is the web site for visas
http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=139

and this is the site with specific info about this type of visa
http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=72

to see the cost of your visa
http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=128

ok so what do you have to get together-
a contract, 2 photographs (passport sized), fill out the form which is online as an adobe file, and send it to the address stated on the form by certified mail
and then you wait (as I'm still doing) for an appiontment when you go and get your documents and pay for your visa (which of course depends on whre you are from) since I am working I had to get my temporary work permit which is 50% of the visa's cost.

that's all I know so far, I will keep you all updated as soon as I have something useful to add.

cheers
Diana

DianaMa · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 33 Location: Stgo, Chile

Ok all, for those of you who are still interested in this string, my odessy is finally over (for this year)

It all started March 15 when I mailed my visa application and a copy of my contract to Extranjeria. A month later I had to go to their downtown office wait in line all morning and pay for my work permit. I had to get a work permit because I was working without a visa for a month, its basically a fine which is a percentage of your visa cost. And you only get a work permit if your visa application has been accepted. A month later I had to get my contract redone because the law had been changed and so I had to have a new clause put into my contract. Again I went downtown and again I waited all morning. A month later (june) I got a notification that my visa was ready, I had to go pay at a bank, then go downtown with my passport and get my visa glued to my passport. Now this next step could have been done right away, but I was sooo busy working that I waited almost another month (had to really hussle because I almost let it expire) to go to Interpol and be treated like crap so they could supposidly check my crimianl record, this lovely office is close to mercado central in Independencia, I then walked over to the civil registry in Sgto centro and waited in line to get my picture taken for my id card and my RUT, I have to go pick it up next week, after which I will go to a bar and drink pisco sours to celebrate this long and sometimes arduous process.
Now that I reflect on it I suppose it wasn't that bad lol.
Anyone up for some pisco sours next week???

cheers
Diana Rolling Eyes