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[Sweetsee]

You said you and your brother consider him the bomb and that you guys couldn't pull in Roppongi.
The keypad was funny.

[luckyloser700]

[ghostrider]

[luckbox]

An amusing thread, another one of those is this a troll or what? posts. And as with most trolls, I always find the following reaction more entertaining. I'll add a couple yen to the circus...

Troll or not, the OP, does represent a very real mindset among especially younger foreigners in Japan. I've worked among many many young early 20-something expats (especially int he JET community), some of whom may exercise a bit more tact and tatemae than the OP, but in the end they're here for more or less the same reason - that human urge to get laid by what they perceive as easy, exotic Asian gals. Yes, they are here for travel, culture, and the usual other things, but sex with j-chicks usually is way up top of their list of reasons. But as the old saying goes, it takes two to tango, and there is a very real stereotype some J-women have of gaijin men, so to be fair, the usery is a two-way street. J-gals can be just as shallow in the way they notch gaijin men on their proverbial belts, then kick them to the curb. Mostly, it's a mutual sex-friend arrangement, to which I say - Live and let live.

English (and foreign culture) is as much a status symbol and fashion in Japan as it is a linguistic tool, and the sprinkling of Japlish throughout the culture is evidence of that. The fact is many J-women want to date gaijin men because its fashionable to do so.

I personally wouldn't touch a gaijin bar J-gal with a 100 foot pole, the STD fear alone (knowing how many guys they've been thru) is enough of a deterent. My advice to guys like the OP, well, guys like you likely already have every STD under the sun, so may as well join the meat markets of Tokyo. But for those of you with more discriminating tastes, Japan is like any other human culture. There are great people to meet out there and it takes a bit of effort to separate the good from bad apples. I've always found the further away I get from Tokyo and large urban centres, the more authentic and less-fashion conscious people seem to get. I've always had much better experiences dating inaka gals. Indeed, I'm engaged to marry one.

[tokyo story]

This is really none of my concern, but it really depends on the girl. Some girls sleep with guys straight away, others don't. Some of the guys I know pull and others can't. The guys who can't aways make the same mistakes. They chat up every girl in the bar.

I don't really see anything wrong with young people here trying to sow their wild oats (so long as they're careful). It's not as though Japanese young people aren't trying to do the same thing.

[MrCAPiTUL]

A high maintenance girl wants Prada? LV? Dolce & Gabbana?

Find a street vendor on Broadway in New York and have them mail it to you. 10 bucks plus shipping.

[prlester]

I thought that was a myth? Are the people that much different between the areas?

[PAULH]

[Dex]

My girlfriend is from Osaka, although we don't live in Japan. She is down to earth, level headed, and very open minded. Yeah she likes fashion and big names, but not to an extreme. I guess thats something we have in common.

[Brooks]

my wife certainly thinks Tokyo is a different place.
The people are indirect and kind of cold, and look down on people from other places.

my wife was in a university meeting in Kanagawa and she noticed that people don`t give their opinions and never say anything even slightly negative. In Osaka people are more likely to voice disagreement.
In Tokyo, if you want to complain, you have to wait til you are drinking or are at a bar. Or you complain somewhere in private, away from work.

People in Osaka like a bargain and will ask directly for a discount.
People in Tokyo want to save money too, but they just look out for the lowest prices on goods.

Lots of people wear dark colors here but in Osaka people's clothing is more colorful.

Koreans seem to prefer Osaka to Tokyo, and seem more comfortable there.

[Mark]

I don't think any country is uniform from place to place (with the possible exception of Andorra!), and Japan is no exception. There is a general Eastern/Western divide but there are other divides as well. Tokyo is a weird place with all sorts of divisions between people and different ideas about who constitutes a real Tokyoite and all this.

What has always surprised me is that folks in Kanto seem to be the most easily intimidated in Japan at least in terms of dealing with foreigners.

Personally, when I go to Osaka I feel much more relaxed. The people there seem like normal people who happen to be Japanese. Many times, the folks in Tokyo seem like Martians.

[the big dog]

Excellent. A wise man once told me that a little carefully directed provocation rarely fails to yield productive results. Thank you.

For the record I am STD free; no condom- no sex- simple.

To those who offered informative and insightful replies, thank you.
And to all those who oppose...hmm...well.

[Dr Disco]

WHat's up dog?

I had to do it...sorry.


Yes, I agree with a few posters who said they see nothing wrong with young people having a good time. It is pretty common (male or female, from Europe, Asia, North And Soth America...can't speak for Africa or the Middle East, haven't been there).

In fact, I see nothing wrong with someone in the 40's(50's, 60's, 70's etc) having a good time. Men and women should be allowed to do this, it is normal.Repeat, "It is normal"until you feel better

[khmerhit]

even educated fleas do it

[JimDunlop2]

Meh... I'll answer....