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desertmonkey · Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 25

Hi there

Can anyone tell me what you think about this British private school offer , for a small family of 3 with moderate lifestyle/spending.

After making the calculations, with all the accomodation , benefits , bonus included, total income per annum is �18684 (equivalent to USD 34400) plus free family tickets , medicals and education. Total 60 + days paid holidays.

Do you reckon there would be anything left I would be able to save up for my old age? If yes, how much roughly ?

Thanks

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

Depends on how much you spend.

You could easily save $20,000 a year, but you might lose it in the subsequent divorce.

mouse5 · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 142

I wouldn't consider anything under 20 grand. I was making a least that in the late 80s - with 3 months paid leave!!

Anytime now · Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Posts: 59

Yes, by all means, expect and ask for more salary and/or benefits. It's the desert. You're away from family. There's a war going on in the region. They should PAY you handsomely for providing that environment for the kiddies. Expect more. It does our professional so much more good if the schools concede some things. They should offer at $10,000 more. Some teachers are getting much more than that!

Anytime Now

Cleopatra · Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:

mouse5 · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 142

Silly me - I was teaching in Europe when there was a war in the former Yugoslavia. I guess I should have asked for danger money, being as there was 'a war going on in the region'?[/quote]

Yes, silly you. Give us a break! In case you hadn't noticed it's called the "European Union" not the "United States of Europe". I live in Europe but we're over a 1000 miles from Yugoslavia. There's not been "talk of a war in Europe" for 50 years.

ntropy · Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 671 Location: ghurba

Please look up the meaning of "sarcasm" in your dictionary.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Pollux · Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 224 Location: PL

Let me get this straight:

The Yugoslavian conflict is like the Israel-Lebanon conflict.

Western Europe was safe during the Yugoslavian conflict.

Therefore, the ME is safe during the Israel-Lebanon conflict.

Ladies, the analogy between Yugo and Is-Leb wars is very weak(weak analogy fallacy). It's the apples and oranges thingy.

Cleopatra · Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject:

Your weak attempt at patronising other posters (not for the first time), is just that. It certainly in no way disproves my point, esp. as I never in fact said that the Yugoslav war was particularly similar to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. However, it certainly confirms me in my belief that, in refering to a localised conflict between two tiny Levantine countries as the "Middle East conflict", the media provides a misleading picture to people who don't know any better.

In short: KSA is not a party to this conflict and it is extremely unlikely that the war will spread anywhere close to its borders. The "Middle East" is much larger than Europe, and almost all of it is peaceful and safe. Therefore, teachers who choose to work in KSA do not have any right to demand 'danger money', anymore than my friends who were teaching in Hungary, literally within hearing distance of the Serbian shelling of Osijek, had such a right. If you don't like that, I suggest you stay in PL.

Anytime now · Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Posts: 59

There is no doubt about it, danger money is for dangerous places. That is why so many companies in the KSA offer it as an incentive.

Regards,
Anytime Now

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

And how many of those are offered to teachers... anywhere outside of Iraq?

Really people... the common sense advice is... for those who can't understand the analogy... stay home...

VS

Pollux · Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 224 Location: PL

Cleo,

I'll try to say this in a non-patronizing voice.

The two conflicts are disimilar because during the Jugo war the certainty of it spreading beyond its borders was near zero, but in the present conflict the chances are much higher. Some Israeli voices are calling for striking Demascus and so on...

In fact, you did compare the conflicts, but if you're offended by someone pointing out that they shouldn't be compared, than no one will convince you otherwise.

Cleopatra · Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:04 am Post subject:

Anytime, can you tell us the names of some KSA employers that provide 'danger money' and specifically state that that is what it is?

Anytime now · Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Posts: 59

I'm sorry this has gotten so personal for you Cleopatra. If you ever come to the KSA, you're going to have to learn to live and let live, to make it in this unique culture, especially with your colleagues.

The companies you asked for which offer danger money would be BAe, Vinnell, & RISCO, just to name a few, some of the top-paying companies, I might add.

Cheerio,
Anytime Now