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Khrystene



Joined: 17 Apr 2004
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Location: WAW, PL/SYD, AU

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Military English Reply with quote

Has anyone any tips on teaching English to the Military. I might have a chance of a job in this area, through a friend.

THanks in advance.

K
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
Posts: 701
Location: Frank's Wild Years

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Military English Reply with quote

I taught an ESP course in what you loosely call 'Military English'.Who are you teaching? This will greatly effect the kind of subjects you need to teach.Back in '99 I taught a course in the 'Language of Ordinance' to some Omani officer cadets in the UK.It was a complete mare,(my boss called it a challenge).I tried to elicit the stuff I didn't understand but my students didn't know the answers either.Preparation was also tough as it's hard to find a mark 7 pk4 bouncing betty with blah blah blah detonators in the dictionary.
Leave it to people who have been in the military,they know what they are talking about.TEFL teachers are good at things like General English and General English ,(and skills), in a business context and exams like the UCLES lot, IELTS and TOEFL.
This ESP stuff is a mare if you don't have a background in it.However ,if the money is ok....screw integrity and blag it.
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Khrystene



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your advice. I'm a little scared of it, but it could be an interesting challenge.

My friend, who's been teaching this course for the last year and who has recommended it to me, is coming over this evening, so I'll know more when I talk to him.

The money's ordinary, but it's guaranteed hours, almost every day, til December.

More later!

Keep the tips coming! Razz
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cezarek



Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first students here were military. A bit of a baptism of fire. There's a useful textbook called Campaign English, and you can subscribe to monthly updates through either Macmillan or onestopenglish, I forget which.
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Khrystene



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I took a brief look at their website. It's Macmillan.

So tell me more about your 'baptism by fire'... What were they like?
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anospi



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, you've just brought back memories from my own 'baptism of fire' in Cambodia. In my first job after completing my CELTA I had to teach an ESP class for Immigration Police officers. Not military, but they might as well have been considering how intimidated I felt. The sixteen guys were the biggest Khmers I'd seen, and they were all older than me as well.

I was told to teach them the same course as one of the levels in the general english program, but it was a complete disaster. I remember one class when some of the guys started talking about their exploits at the local brothel the previous evening. Ugh.

Luckily, about 4 weeks into the 10 week course one of the other teachers appraoched me with a bunch of Immigration Police specific lessons. He'd prepapred them himself a few years earlier, and from this point onwards the course went swimmingly.

I know this probably doesn't help you much! Good luck with it. I had it tough, and I'm male. It was a good challenge though, I survived, and learnt a lot from it.
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Khrystene



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that! I can imagine their lurid descriptions of their nightly exploits. It must have been bad for you, as a man, to squirm. Shocked

I guess the more I hear about teaching the military the more I think I'd actually do well. Does sounds like quite a challenge! Smile
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anospi



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It must have been bad for you, as a man, to squirm.


Haha! Believe it or not, this straight male doesn't particularly enjoy hearing about what goes on in Phnom Penh's brothels.

Can you take a stab in the dark at one of the reasons why I left Cambodia? Smile
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Khrystene



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anospi wrote:
Can you take a stab in the dark at one of the reasons why I left Cambodia? Smile


Gotcha Wink
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cezarek



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khrystene wrote:
Yeah I took a brief look at their website. It's Macmillan.

So tell me more about your 'baptism by fire'... What were they like?


Drunk sometimes.

And often rather slow learners. I'll PM you with the gory details.

I also taught some slightly more motivated younger officers and NCOs from more specialised regiments, who weren't nearly so bad, but still had their moments.

I think/hope it's all changing now as the Warsaw Pact generation are retiring and a NATO culture is developing. The ones who were the most troublesome to teach were coming up to early retirement age and were desperate to hold onto their jobs, though not necessarily going about it the right way. I'd be surprised if many of them are still there, and want to stress that the younger generation were a bit more normal.

One point to remeber, their budget for language training isn't huge, so the classes are quite large, I had 18 in some of the groups.
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