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Considering Spain! A Few Questions ???

 
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Philleasfogg



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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Location: near Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Considering Spain! A Few Questions ??? Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm planning on doing a CELTA in Feb 07 completing in June 07 (18 week part-time course). I'm seriously considering coming to Spain in Aug/Sep 07 (I gather it's hard to find work during Jul/Aug). I have no degree or previous experience, will just have the CELTA. I plan to stay for a year before returning to the U.K. to do a 3 year degree in Applied Linguistics. The year in Spain will, I hope, serve as a chance to gain experience and also decide if EFL is the career for me.

OK that's my background, now the questions,

Do I stand a chance in hell of getting a job with my qualifications (or lack of as the case happens to be) Question

Would I be able to find enough work to make ends meet Question

and finally...

Where would be a good town/city to start for a total newbie Question

I would really appreciate the opinions of all you TEFL veterans out in cyber land,

Thanks in advance

Phil Cool
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craftynick



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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Location: Sunny Barca

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i have no answers for you but a few similar questions. I have just finished my advanced TEFL diploma & after doing my 4 week teaching part in Barcelona i really fancy going back there to teach. However i wont be able to get back out there until 31/8/2006 and am wondering if anyone knows if this is going to be too late to look for work. In other words does anyone know when most spanish schools recruit.

Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Jyulee



Joined: 01 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only speak for Madrid - I have lived here for a year and a half.

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Do I stand a chance in hell of getting a job with my qualifications (or lack of as the case happens to be)?


Yes - if 2007 is like as it is now, you will certainly find work. In Madrid there is a shortage of teachers, many agencies and academies will take on people without visas, qualifications or experience. If you can work here legally (EU passport, in other words) and have a CELTA, it will be no trouble.

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Would I be able to find enough work to make ends meet?


Yes. International House, for example, regularly take on teachers with a CELTA and no experience, and (although it varies) you would be looking at more than �1,000 a month. Most teachers rent a room for around �300 a month (and this is in the city centre) - leaving more than enough for food, etc... It's not enough to pay off debts, and not enough to lead a super-glamorous lifestyle - but it is enough to survive and have fun - which is what most Madrid-based English teachers are here to do.

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In other words does anyone know when most spanish schools recruit.


Any time that is not July or August would be a safe bet! While academies (including International House and the British Council) nominally recruit teachers to start at the beginning of the Academic Year (around Sept/October), the reality is that they recruit people year-round. I'd imagine it works like this in Barcelona too.

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Where would be a good town/city to start for a total newbie


I'm no expert on all the Spanish cities, but Madrid is good because..

1. There is a lot of work available, and reasonable money to be earnt even at entry level qualificaions and positions. While Barcelona might be the place "where everyone wants to live", Madrid benefits from this by having equal demand for teachers but far less supply. It is a teacher's market here.

2. It is a nice city, it is friendly, managable, and there is a large and established community of teachers here. Smaller places, I imagine, might be more lonely and intimidating for someone who has just arrived.

3. As your experience grows, better jobs become available. There are agencies that I work for, for example, that stipulate a minimum of 5 years experience. They pay accordingly. Along with the "living in Madrid for a year or two to have fun" type teachers, there are also the "in it for a lifetime with house, car and kids" type teachers. There is something here for most people.

But..

1. You will either be teaching kids, or spending half your day on the metro travelling to teach in companies (or, horror!... both). This is more or less inevitable. The neat and tidy "teach friendly adults from 4 to 9, block hours, all in the same classroom every day" that you might find in other parts of the world doesn't exist much here, although you may get lucky!

2. In Madrid, it is either too hot (35+) or two cold (10-)for at least half the year.

A lot of the above is subjective, though, really it's just my own impression.

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Philleasfogg



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the advice, very helpful Very Happy
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hidefs



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it seems to be too easy then to come and teach in Madrid...would you say the same for a 21 years old italian with TEFL qualification and some teaching experience in China?( NO DEGREE!!!)

I have already got some replies about this matter in the forum but I wonder if it would be too risky for me to come there in september as I am considering to do?

do you know anyone doing it?
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Jyulee



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know any Italians teaching English here - so I don't know how it would be for you here!
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Italians in "Madrith" Reply with quote

I knew two Italians who worked there, both of whom were graduates. Your lack of a degree will be more of an impediment than being a non-native English speaker.
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Moore



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew an Italian lad who worked here for the last couple of years: he seemed to do fine, but of course always had a disadvantage compared to native speakers. His European nationality helped a bit though. I'd probably lie about the lack of degree.
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capricious



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Philleasfogg,

I was in Spain about 8 years ago, teaching in a small town called Segovia. Personally, I think it's a beautiful place and ideal for a new tefler. It's small but lively. The historical richness and beauty of the city is overwhelming (Segovia is at an altitude of about 1800m). The people are extremely friendly. And almost everything is within walking distance, so you won't have the hassle of commuting to work. Plus, it's only an hour away from Madrid.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to say anything about the pay since in my time salaries were paid in Pesetas. Accommodation wasn't provided by the school I worked for but they helped me a great deal in finding a place to stay. My salary then was sufficient to pay for rent, utility bills and a hell of a good time! I would certainly consider it as an option. Good luck!
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