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Quibby84



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Some advice on teaching english in japan... Reply with quote

Hello! I am new here and I wanted to ask about a few things.
Here is my story. I am 22 years old and am graduating in December, I am married to Michael who is 23 and graduated (from college) last december. We want to teach english in japan as soon as I graduate. We had thought about going through Nova but after realizing how they teach and such we decided againest it. I feel that Michael and I would do better in a classroom with more hand-on learning (where we make the lesson plans and such) than the "fast food teaching" that Nova offers. So we decided to get a TESOL certification because we felt that a)it would help us get a job and b)it would show our employeer that we are excited about teaching (and are motivated to do so).
So we started to go through Oxford Seminars (they were the first on the google search) but the class wasnt filling up fast enough and it was going to be $800 each for 6 days of class. AND the subject topics that they were going to go over were somewhat immature and "non-helpful". So we found and talked to American Tesol Institute. They are only $250 a person and have a much more advanced topics (lesson plans, learning styles etc). They also say that they promise to get us a job. The people are very helpful and very available. We are not far from being finished with that certification. I am worried about the job situation though, how can you a) get a job while in the united states b)know that it is a good job and c)have everything work out like peaches and cream?
Here are my questions:
Has anyone went through American Tesol to get a teaching job in japan?
How can you know a good job from bad?
Is it possible that we will get there and be screwed?
Is teaching a classroom in Japan similar to teaching on in the US?
Is it fun?
Do you love it (if you are teaching now)?
Would you suggest this for a career?
AND what are the pros and cons about teaching in Japan?
shew...I hope that someone had the patience to read ALL of this and respond Smile
thanks for any help!!! Shocked
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone with a pulse can teach English here. Making a career of it and advancing to the best jobs takes hard work, time and connections.
Also, you don't need to pay someone to do what you can do yourself.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, I'll respond. At first, I thought the OP was a joke. But, if so, it's very well done. My compliments.

I'll be the first one to admit that TESL is not rocket science. However, I must say, I do find it amusing to read posts from people with absolutely zero experience who look down on one program or another.

Especially when they offer up posts as rife with mistakes as the one above. Next time you're looking down your nose at a Nova instructor, Quibby, be sure to ask them how to spell: "against," "hands-on," "employer," and if "a much more advanced topics" (sic) sounds correct.
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bornslippy1981



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: Some advice on teaching english in japan... Reply with quote

I'll give it a go...

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Has anyone went through American Tesol to get a teaching job in japan?


From the sounds of it, it's not an accredited TESOL program.
Also, you don't need an agency to get a job in Japan. Being American you can't get a working holiday visa, and many people come on a tourist visa and find work, but if you do a search on this, it has many pros and cons.
You and your boyfriend might have a better chance coming over with a large chain - Nova, Geos, Aeon, ECC, etc., and then find something different.
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How can you know a good job from bad?


Again, a search of this forum, and on google and you can read horror stories that everybody has. Of course, there will always be people out there complaining, regardless of if they work for Nova or The New York Yankees.

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Is it possible that we will get there and be screwed?


It depends on what you consider being screwed? A few months ago there was a poster on this forum who claimed he got fired for no reason. Actually he made about 200 posts in a week before leaving Japan with no money. Kinda like the Ringling Bros., but without the elephants. He also wore jeans to the school, and told his story about a false arrest. Other people come over here with Nova thinking they're moving to Tokyo, but they end up with some small city nobody's heard of.

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Is teaching a classroom in Japan similar to teaching on in the US?


Sorry, I don't know.

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Is it fun?

When I worked at Nova, it was okay. A way into the country and a decent salary for what I did. Now I teach nursery school and it's great.
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Do you love it (if you are teaching now)?

When I wake up I don't dread going to work. To me, that shows I enjoy my work.

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Would you suggest this for a career?


Some people last 2 months. Others are still here after 20 years. However, the longer you're here or any other country, you need to build up your resume with additional education, training, etc., or you'll always be a bottom feeder.
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AND what are the pros and cons about teaching in Japan?


Just a few:

Pros:
-My income tax rate is much lower than in America where I was paying about 25%,
-I don't drive, so I have an extra $600/month without car payments, insurance, gas, repairs, etc.,
-I've met a lot of great people and learned a lot about other countries,
-I've lost almost 40 pounds since I've been here. I was about 220 pounds before, but weighed in at 182 the other day. I think this is because I don't have any diners to go to at 3 AM after a night of drinking,
-I'm doing what I want with my life, which is traveling and writing, although I haven't traveled in Asia at all despite planning to do a lot of it.
-Health insurance is decent and not too expensive. I pay around US $110 for government health insurance and it includes dental. At home my employer paid about $200 for me, and I had to pay out of pocket for dental, which was only about $35/month.

Cons:

I'll leave off homesickness, feelings of loneliness, etc., because people get this from time to time. The first 6 months was like a yo-yo for me - some days up, some days down.

-My biggest concern is when I sit down at a cafe, and everything seems so familiar. I know I don't want to live here forever, but at times it seems as if I have. This really isn't a con though, as it's a feeling. Maybe other people have some cons they can add?

People say Japan is expensive, but I don't find it to be too different than America. I'm never without money on payday, and I'm able to send money home every month.


Anyway, hope it helps a little.

Good luck.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks bornslippy! you can disregard my previous post, we posted at the same time.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You lost 40 pounds?? what an inspiration! Everytime I eat chocolate cake I look at it and say to myself "I'll lose it in japan". Now you have given me reason to continue doing that...lol.
So how did you get the nursery school job? How long did you work for Nova?
what do you do at your nursery school job, is it like daycare?
We are really excited about Japan...my husband thinks that he can do it forever, but I am pretty sure that we wont stay forever. We want to travel also and since my interest is Central America, he said we can go there next...lol.
Why havent you travelled yet in Asia?

Our dream would be for us both to work part-time (25ish hours a week) and then spend the rest of our time traveling. BUt that is only a dream..we will see what happens.
Anyways, i will stop boring you..thanks for you time!

oh and what are your degrees? what were your qualifications for teaching english?
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shuize



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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