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scb222 · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 175 Location: Brisvegas, Oz

generally those who work at institutes arent REAL teachers, although over years of teaching they can call themselves teachers to some degree at least. but i too dont understand why you 'thrifty' cant come clean on your school. if you have something to say about it you should at least have the courage to come out, so to speak. of course we all know what school you supposedly work for. but if you work for them i cant understand why you hate them so much. it's your choice to work there. obviously it is the best job you can get or else youd work somewhere else where youd perhaps be happier. fill us in as to why you must be SOOO trapped there!

Otterman Ollie · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:16 am Post subject:

Quietly ,collectively,the forum waits with baited breath for the response !

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

scb222:

You must be the only poster on this forum who even vaguely believes that I work for the school that cannot be named.

I do not, have never and will never work for that bottom feeder. Why the hell would I, when I have got good qualifications and experience?

All I know about that place I have picked up from here, but that doesn't stop me from despising that place for dragging down EFL in Istanbul.

scb222 · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 175 Location: Brisvegas, Oz

sorry for thinking you must be working there. you have such strong feelings for the place, it was only natural to think that you had at least worked there at some point.

as for the quality of esl in istanbul, its been at the bottom of the heap for ages, ET didnt have anything to do with that, it's all the fault of the turk govt and their stupid rules for not making esl teachers legal in their country, for not aspiring to higher standards, for not allowing better conditions to prevail for REAL teachers who would then hence fill the market. instead the crappy salaries and long hours with little reward and thanks doesnt encourage real and good teachers to come to turkey. therefore the country is full of backpacker teachers. i really think it's a bit harsh to blame a business, let's face it all institutes are businesses first.

newtefler · Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 80

oooh ... handbags :0)

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

billybuzz · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 219 Location: turkey

Oh come on Henry ,don't pull that grammar parallel verb anal bs does thrifty have a point or not ?

Freddie Miles · Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 91

and which verbs was he talking about anyway?

Otterman Ollie · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:38 am Post subject:

The verb to waffle perhaps ?

molly farquharson · Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 839 Location: istanbul

so finally he admits the truth that most of us already knew. now get off the rant.

Now my mini rant. First, you are insulting the teachers who work at the language schools. They do not have to work there and in fact many choose to work there. They are not backpackers, as they have to meet our criteria. Of course some of them may carry backpacks, now that I think of it, but I think most carry shoulder bags....

of course some of the schools are questionable, but ET is not one of them, in spite of its flaws (and who works for a perfect school anywhere in the world?) As to the quality of EFL in istanbul, ET in fact raised the bar for language teaching and continues to do so, within limits. We do not blame the work permit system for teachers' status, but the complexity of the Turkish bureaucracy certainly does not make things easy, and that includes the bureaucracy within companies (and not only language schools) and the government. I have to work with both and it is very frustrating. However, I have learned which battles to fight, which is one reason I rarely post here anymore-- why waste my time? In general I find this forum has become rather dreary since the return of the multinamed poster.

OK, end of rant.
Twisted Evil

Londonlover · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 90 Location: London

So now the truth is out, indeed.
I have little knowledge about the ET language school chain, so make no comment on the quality of the teachers/management etc.
But I do find it interesting that after spending the last couple of years putting great effort into trying to convince the forum readers that he actually worked at ET and after trying to cultivate the impression that what he spoke was from first hand knowledge of working there, suddenly 'Thrifty' confesses he has never ever worked there.
He has clearly proven himself to be a liar.

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Caterinamh · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 140 Location: Istanbul

Amen to the comment on the Turkish bureaucracy see my mini rant on "Turkish work visa's are a nightmare". He he.