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envirochick



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Newb Assigned an Audio Visual Class Reply with quote

My schedule includes an audio visual class and from what I've been told, movies are the main focus. There is apparently a text but it won't be available for a few weeks yet.

Since this is my first gig as a teacher (no BA but determined) I am looking for suggestions on how best to make this more than a class where the students simply drift off to sleep.

I'm already planning on exploring different genres and film vocabulary as well as discussing things like movie reviews but I would appreciate any additional info. Is it best to show the film in sections and have a lesson following the section or should I show the film in its entirety. I'm in a small town in IM and my resources are limited although I have limewire.
What movies are best suited for intermediate level college students? A television series might work well, is there something other than Friends that might work?

Day jiu in China and I think I made the right decision.
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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.swinburne-senior-sc.edu.vic.gov.au/dpd/blade.htm
Please do the rest of us a service, and avoid Friends?
Try "Bend it Like Beckham", or "Big Fish". You need to do field-building first, run them with English subtitles, pause frequently for discussion. One movie should last 4 classes, and may need a second viewing before the students start assignment work.
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Outsida



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I have to disagree. 'Friends' is quite suitable... the humour translates pretty well, and you can show two episodes (44 minutes or thereabouts) in the first lesson, and spend the second discussing it.

I am no fan of the show myself, but it works.

As for activities... there are idioms and slang, retelling, debate an issue raised in the show, get the students to act out scenes from the show, get them to predict the plot of the next episode - following from the events of the one just watched, you can give them worksheets, play vocabulary games with new words from the show, change the endings of episodes, compare it with the Chinese version of Friends, discuss character flaws (such as how the men are complete pussies) and how they would write the characters, get them to make up their own plot for an episode... and so on and on.

Man, I'd love to teach your class. Paid to watch TV? Heh. It would be good!

Any other good shows apart from Friends? I think it would be good to mix it up. Seinfeld might be ok, as long as you choose episodes where the humour is mostly physical (the barbershop episode is a good one).
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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as long as it has nothing worthy of serious discussion, right?
Have you ever taught English, in an English speaking country, as a profession? Friends. Seinfeld. Sex In The city. American Pap.
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adamsmith



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think tv shows would be great to use - but avoid the sit coms. The problem with sit coms is they are just that "situational comedy" - instead go with the dramas that are more attuned to a real life with real vocabulary and not ful of slang, innuendo, and double meanings, which will just confuse your students more than help them to understand. Try shows like the OC - which is related to kids more their own age (although I have never watched it yet) but it seems to be very popular with the teenagers back home. Most tv shows are readily available here on DVD so you should be able to find something. Intersperse the tv dramas with movies and you should be able to find enough material for the whole semester.
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Outsida



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super Mario wrote:
Just as long as it has nothing worthy of serious discussion, right?
Have you ever taught English, in an English speaking country, as a profession? Friends. Seinfeld. Sex In The city. American Pap.



Okay, thank you for letting us know how qualified you are.

Now, back to the topic, if you can't find ANYTHING in a TV show worth discussing, then perhaps you require a guide dog. Adamsmith brought up a good point... dramas might be better than comedies. The OC is quite good. The West Wing might be too specialised. NYPD blue? A big maybe. East Enders? Horribly depressing. What other dramas are out there, particularly from Britain?

As an Aussie, I'll be the first to admit that our sitcoms are pathetic. Better American pap, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you outsida, a first, we agree. There are many good drama shows The key is to find one that can have similiar issues to the students so they can relate to the differences in culture and how they characters deal with different issues. This will be more relevant to them so they can get discussion going. Heck, I even used "Lost" on occassion with one of my classes when they had done something worthwhile that they deserved a reward. Many of the students loved it and went out and got their own copies to watch at home.
The key is that it should be something that they can discuss/write about etc. Avoid the police/law shows as they just provide a negative image and these students already have enough misconceptions of living in the 'West', and will probably be to hard for most of them to really understand.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that when I've shown movies in the past, stopping them at a "cliffhanger" moment really gets the kids worked up. Then, asking them what they think will happen next gets a bunch of responses. Also, having them reenact scenes from a movie or TV show is a hoot, especially if you advise them to put their own twist on the scene - - try something new and different. I wonder if you were to show, say, "Friends", then tried to find a comparable Chinese TV show (with the help of another teacher or student), showed both, then asked the kids to compare/contrast, if that would go over well?
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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The message I'm getting here is light weight pop culture is the way to go. If teaching literature, Danielle Steele would be a better choice than John Steinbeck. Am I correct?
And by "teaching", I don't meaning giving them the novel/showing the visual text, and then asking them to write a "report".
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Since this is my first gig


Are you in a band? Cool Cool

I suggest you show them Japanese movies - they love Japan.
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Outsida



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEAM_PAPUA wrote:
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Since this is my first gig


Are you in a band? Cool Cool

I suggest you show them Japanese movies - they love Japan.



LOL!
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Outsida



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super Mario wrote:
The message I'm getting here is light weight pop culture is the way to go. If teaching literature, Danielle Steele would be a better choice than John Steinbeck. Am I correct?
And by "teaching", I don't meaning giving them the novel/showing the visual text, and then asking them to write a "report".



Lightweight or not, there are still issues raised in them if you look hard enough. Even Seinfeld is an indictment of selfishness, anti-social behaviour and empty lives. Entertaining and educational are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I don't think American shows deserve extra criticism simply for being marketed more aggressively - every country produces pap. Some produce more, as their markets can absorb more. Hence more bad (in absolute figures) American shows. Should we screen what we show based on personal prejudice? No. I mentioned before that I dislike Friends but could appreciate its usefulness in such a class.
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blondie10



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught many AV classes in China. I had a variety of shows. One show that went over well was Season 1 of American Idol. James Bond movie went well as it shows many different countries. Part of the lesson was to figure out what countries he went to in what order. What did not go over well was King Arthur, even my best students had trouble. They love action adventure, and animatied movies. Lots of vocabulary building in AV classes.
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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting , um, dis-involved in this thread. New Yorkers, wandering in and out of each other's apartments, delivering "witty" one liners, is not included in my definition of "film as text".
There are good movies out there with plenty of meat on them. TV as a time filler is for the lazy and/or incapable.
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Outsida



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still don't get it. Forget the format, concentrate on the issues raised. They are there. You don't have to like the jokes.

And TV would fit into the definition of an AV class.
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