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just noel
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 Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: Current Work Permit Situation, Aug. 14, 2006 |
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I know that many schools are now enforcing the start of the work permit process.
Have any teachers been forced to quit their jobs because they cannot get a work permit? |
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kparsons
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Location: Hanoi, Vietnam
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| None that I know of. And I see that as highly unlikely in the near future. The requirements for the permit are constantly changing, and the lastest are rather outrageous: a BA in Ed and five years experience. Needless to say, this move would exclude 99.9% of the teachers in language schools, so I don't see this latest move being enforceable. At this point, the language schools are attempting to talk some sense into the government -- we'll have to wait and see what happens.... |
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Proffeshnial Teachman
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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I left in March due to the hassle with the work permit (I didn't go through with any of it). I'm not suprised to see it's still causing problems. Pathetic!!!  |
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Blade
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| Proffeshnial Teachman wrote: |
| I left in March due to the hassle with the work permit (I didn't go through with any of it). I'm not suprised to see it's still causing problems. Pathetic!!! |
Right now at one of the biggest schools all of the Autsralians can get it, or have it.
It's very difficult for Americans to get the notarization done because of the way the system is set up.
Proffeshinial Teachman, where are you at now? |
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Proffeshnial Teachman
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Blade wrote: |
| Proffeshnial Teachman wrote: |
| I left in March due to the hassle with the work permit (I didn't go through with any of it). I'm not suprised to see it's still causing problems. Pathetic!!! |
Right now at one of the biggest schools all of the Autsralians can get it, or have it.
It's very difficult for Americans to get the notarization done because of the way the system is set up.
Proffeshinial Teachman, where are you at now? |
Back in UK Blade, I will probably return out East again, I could go back to Saigon as that particular door has been kept open, but the work permit hassle is something I can do without....
Thinking of Turkey, Mongolia, Beijing or elsewhere. It's big world out there and I want to see more!  |
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Mr Wind-up Bird
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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I only know of one person (American) who had permit problems, & had to fly back to the US to get various things notarised. Good schools should handle all the donkeywork & red tape for their teachers.
I have no problem with the government demanding that teachers be qualified, but all the notarising & translating is excessive. |
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Proffeshnial Teachman
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr Wind-up Bird wrote: |
I only know of one person (American) who had permit problems, & had to fly back to the US to get various things notarised. Good schools should handle all the donkeywork & red tape for their teachers.
I have no problem with the government demanding that teachers be qualified, but all the notarising & translating is excessive. |
There was alot of confusion at the start of the year, at my school at least, and that's when I came to my decision.
At that time they required alot of paperwork, degrees (originals), criminal background check from home and various other stuff, all of which had to be notorised in Vietnam. The cost was 600 USD then (which the school were going to front as they wanted me on a contract). I opted to leave and keep an eye on proceedings. When they finally realise it's not going to work I may consider a return visit....... |
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Mr Wind-up Bird
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Proffeshnial Teachman wrote: |
| The cost was 600 USD then (which the school were going to front as they wanted me on a contract). I opted to leave and keep an eye on proceedings. When they finally realise it's not going to work I may consider a return visit....... |
600USD!!! Who told you that? Don't think I spent more than about 250-300USD in total. |
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just noel
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Mr Wind-up Bird"]
| Proffeshnial Teachman wrote: |
| The cost was 600 USD.... |
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| 600USD!!! Who told you that? Don't think I spent more than about 250-300USD in total. |
I am going through all of the motions right now, and it's going to cost me.
Many people have paid for this process. Only to have paperwork lost, or to make phone calls to find out where their paper is.
This is not easy. |
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ChuckECheese
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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As someone said, the Viet government makes it almost impossible for some of us Americans.
I went thru that BS process and got all my stuff just to get it kicked back from them saying some documents (criminal background check in particular) doesn't look authentic enough. So I gave up a long time ago.
defeated by great Vietnamese government red-tape. |
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VC
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| It seems like my school is putting a lot less emphasis on getting a work permit than they were a few months ago. I know some teachers who are working who don't even have a university degree and therefore have no chance of getting a permit. This tells me that schools are desperate and have realized the impracticality of requiring all their teachers to get a permit. I wouldn't surprised if they are paying money under the table to keep government officials off their backs. |
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Proffeshnial Teachman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| VC wrote: |
| It seems like my school is putting a lot less emphasis on getting a work permit than they were a few months ago. I know some teachers who are working who don't even have a university degree and therefore have no chance of getting a permit. This tells me that schools are desperate and have realized the impracticality of requiring all their teachers to get a permit. I wouldn't surprised if they are paying money under the table to keep government officials off their backs. |
Spot on! I will name no names....... |
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Man of Steel
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi guys, this is my first post on the Vietnam forum.
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| The requirements for the permit are constantly changing, and the lastest are rather outrageous: a BA in Ed and five years experience. |
A BA in Ed? That's a BA in Education right? Is that something that most teachers in Vietnam have? Or is a BA in any other subject acceptable as well?
BTW, aren't there any rules to check the native language status of the teachers? For example, do they check nationality, like in korea?
Thxs
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ChuckECheese
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW, aren't there any rules to check the native language status of the teachers? For example, do they check nationality, like in korea? |
No such a thing. If you have white face, you're okay. |
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