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wendykohn



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: visas for non-teaching jobs? Reply with quote

Does anyone know if it is much harder to get an FM3 visa for non-teaching jobs? I'm sure that if I got a job with an American company in Mexico it wouldn't be hard, but what about, say, a job in a restaurant? If I went to Mexico on a tourist card, would a regular kind of business in Mexico be willing to sponsor my work visa?
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This subject has been touched on here not too long ago. It is difficult to make a living in Mexico which is why so many dream of working elsewhere so the short answer is no, you can't. Basically, unless you are self-employed (setting up your own enterprise, but how's your Spanish?) or possess a skill that a Mexican national does not, then you cannot be hired to work legally. Immigration is constantly on the look-out for foreigners 'free-lancing' or 'working under the table'.

By American company I am guessing you are referring to Walmart or Sam's, etc. These companies are registered in Mexico and they employ Mexicans. The wages are not in line with what the American or Canadian stores pay their staff, and there are long lines of local employee hopefuls when a new store like this opens. Mexicans generally work 6 days a week.

http://www.walmart.com.mx/default.asp
http://www.samsclub.com.mx/
http://www.officedepot.com.mx/
http://homedepot.com.mx/hdmx/esmx/index.shtml

You can get a job as a time-share salesman in a beach area and get a work permit that way, but the majority don't last in this line of work. Best to save money and take a TEFL course if you have your heart set on working in Mexico.
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jillford64



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of along this line (non-teaching jobs), I am wondering about companies llike Coca-cola, General Motors, Siemens, Motorola. I assume they mostly hire local labor, but does anyone know if they hire non-mexicans for positions such as engineering and project managment?
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Polly0607



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, these companies employ Americans and other foreigners, but they usually send them here, not hire them here. They are here to oversee operations and are very highly qualified, usually engineers.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this a teacher forum, you might have better luck posting this question in a place geared towards more general Mexico topics.

http://forum.mexicoinsider.com is one

http://secure.mexonline.com/ is another with job postings
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MELEE



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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some foriegners who have FM3 to work non teaching jobs, but they have other "special" talents. Like a Cuban salsa dancer, An Argentine footballer, a Japanese chef, a Russian gymnastics coach. Right or wrong, they are assumed to be more qualified than a Mexican to do that job. I have also seen people in the immigration office who are spouces of Mexicans, getting permission to work in their father-in-law's family business, no matter what their skills. Like Polly said, the foriegners at Volkswagen and the like don't technically "work" in Mexico, they are sent here for a specified time from home office or somewhere like that and usually get paid in their home country, not here in Mexico. If we do our job well(as English teachers), they train our students to take over for them and go back to their home country!
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a whole clssification system for visas in such specialty jobs...in sports and sciences in particular.

Hey Melee...what do you get when you have a Cuban salsa dancer, an Argentine footballer, a Japanese chef, a Russian gymnastics coach in the same tuna boat lost in the Pacific?


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ontoit



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
what do you get when you have a Cuban salsa dancer, an Argentine footballer, a Japanese chef, a Russian gymnastics coach in the same tuna boat lost in the Pacific?


A nervous tuna boat owner?
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kitkat1



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jillford64 wrote:
Sort of along this line (non-teaching jobs), I am wondering about companies llike Coca-cola, General Motors, Siemens, Motorola. I assume they mostly hire local labor, but does anyone know if they hire non-mexicans for positions such as engineering and project managment?


Most of these companies are prohibited from hiring non-Mexican nationals. The only way it might happen is if they recruited someone from the US for a position and they could prove they couldn't find a Mexican qualified for that role.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontoit wrote:
Guy Courchesne wrote:
what do you get when you have a Cuban salsa dancer, an Argentine footballer, a Japanese chef, a Russian gymnastics coach in the same tuna boat lost in the Pacific?


A nervous tuna boat owner?


Since there wouldn't be any straws to draw, I figured sushi with a side of Cuban every night.
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QuePadre



Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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Location: Mexico DF

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extremely hard to get. Pacience+$$$.

Just like in the U.S., the company would have to provide their financial record, detailed job description, proof of their efforts to find someone from within Mexico, but in vain, etc. The employee will have to provide their information, such as resume, awards, professional certificates, (translated in Spanish, if necessary,) etc. and diploma apostilled. Sounds interesting, eh?

In order to get your case moving, you have to provide the "incentives" to the immigration office from time to time.

Some corporate director from a big U.S. company said it took 6 months to get it. He did it only because he wanted to start establishing residence in Mexico for life. Of course, he already started working before then, on a tourist visa.
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