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Good money...apart from Middle East??
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Karla



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:54 pm    Post subject: Good money...apart from Middle East?? Reply with quote

I am looking for a place to teach where I can save some dosh but am thinking the ME is not for me based on some of the postings within these pages.

Where else is worth looking at? Turkey? Japan? Russia? Korea?

Suggestions fair, fellow teflers would be most appreciated!

Take care,
Karla (in Poland)
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a married couple we saved in Japan on one basic teacher's salary which, just so you know, is the standard Y250,000 per month. We managed to save enough to pay off serious debts. That was five years ago and consumables have got noticeably cheaper round here so I'd imagine that if you were single and lived simply, you could save quite a bit.

Of course, not everyone lives as simply as we do.... Wink
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Albulbul



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:29 am    Post subject: serious spondulix Reply with quote

The onlyplaces to earn serious moolah in this racket are the ME and Japan. That is it. Well maybe Korea if you want to risk your sanity.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a basic salary of 250,000 yen/month in Japan, you will have about 70,000 yen left over after paying for necessities and moderate entertainment. What you do with this (pay off debts, invest in stocks, pack away in a Swiss bank account, etc.), is up to you.

That said, there is always the possibility of saving more than 70,000 per month. Look at the cheapskate thread in the Japan forum for ways to save money (outlandish or otherwise).

Also, this basic salary may be supplemented with private lessons, depending on your needs, time, and inclination. How much? Depends on how much time you want to devote to it, but you can usually expect to charge about 3000-4000 yen/hour per person.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In turkey, I teach 18 hrs a week in a private high school, get free rent and utilities and internet, tons of holidays, and I live quite comfortably with lots of restaurant meals, travel and pretty carpets to buy. I can save about 300 pounds sterling a month, sometimes more. I'm happy with my life here.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O, and to supplement my regular income, I teach privates at approx 20 million TL/ hour. That's about 20 canadian dollars per hour, or 15 US. I teach 6 hours a week privately, adding up to 500 million/month, all of which is saved. Very Happy
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guru



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indonesia ..... $1800 plus accom. and there's better money around than that!
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once again



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong can also be very lucrative financially.If I have my conversions right, US 4-5 thousand per month is possible with some application and clever time tabling or even more by working on the NET scheme. But I guess this depends on what you consider a good salary.
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:35 pm    Post subject: good money Reply with quote

Try becoming a premiership FOOTBALL player.They earn stacks even when they are no good like Emile Heskey.
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isabel



Joined: 07 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The onlyplaces to earn serious moolah in this racket are the ME and Japan. That is it. Well maybe Korea if you want to risk your sanity.


I am teaching in South Korea, at a university. There are teachers that I work with here who do not have M.A.s. My neighbor has saved over $10,000 this year (since 1 March). I have saved over $4000, while having spent an expensive month in Australia, a very long weekend in Bangkok, and many weekend trips here in Korea.

With 18 hours in the classroom a week, and 20 weeks of paid vacation, health insurance, pension, and severance, it is hard to not feel sane and happy.

I think that those who complain all of the time fall into three groups:

1)Those with truly bad jobs.

2)Those who cannot be happy anywhere.

3)Those who are trying to keep a lot of people from coming here and thus driving down wages.
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wanderlust1066



Joined: 16 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the starting salary for a NET here in Hong Kong is 30,000 HK dollars a month and, depending on experience and qualifications, goes up to around 50, 60, even 70 thousand.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isabel wrote:
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The onlyplaces to earn serious moolah in this racket are the ME and Japan. That is it. Well maybe Korea if you want to risk your sanity.


I am teaching in South Korea, at a university. There are teachers that I work with here who do not have M.A.s.

I think that those who complain all of the time fall into three groups:

1)Those with truly bad jobs.

2)Those who cannot be happy anywhere.

3)Those who are trying to keep a lot of people from coming here and thus driving down wages.


I think that you are quite lucky with the job that you have. I also think that the category number 1 you listed is probably a lot more of a reason for complaints than you might think. While good jobs in Korea do exist, there are a lot more bad jobs than good. And I am not trying to discourage anyone from coming to Korea. By all means, come, teach in a Kid's hagwan, experience the joy of the "ddong chim" first-hand. Laughing

Or a university that expects you to work crazy split shifts for less money than any hagwan. But yes, it is possible to save money in Korea. I've saved about $10,000 Can. over the course of a year in my hagwan "job".

Unless you've worked in one of these places, you really have no idea how
"bad it can be". Confused

Cheers
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Steiner



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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Location: Hunan China

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
"ddong chim"


Please, please tell me what this is.


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isabel



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:

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Unless you've worked in one of these places, you really have no idea how "bad it can be".


I do know what you mean, but this is why I say that you have to check out the job carefully.

At my university I teach fours hours per evening Mon.-Thurs., and two on Friday- with 20 weeks paid vacation. And the pay is really good. But, again, there are bad jobs, even at universities, out there. ALWAYS CHECK OUT THE JOB IN ADVANCE.

My point is that there are also good jobs here, and living in Korea with a good job beats living in China for the cost of rice.
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XXX



Joined: 14 Feb 2003
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Location: Where ever people wish to learn English

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is a place where you can make a good bit of coin.I put away 10k US, lived well and did a week in Thailand. But then agian, I'm tough as nails and can put up with a great deal of BS. Korea isn't for everybody. By the way, -Dong shim--this is when a little korean kid tries to ram his/her finger up your anus. Great fun!
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