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can anyone in mexico give me an idea ?
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englishsettler



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: can anyone in mexico give me an idea ? Reply with quote

hi

on previous post i asked whether i could get migratory status given that i have a 10 month old son born in mexico to my mexican wife ??? ( no one gave me an answer!) Unfortunately our marriage has broken down but im determined to make a life there and teach. I have a high level Law degree from london UK but no educational aspect to the degree and NO TEFl. Im from the uk.

I cant anticipate that my wife would support me given we are about to divorce ! however, i want to teach and i want to at some point have a life with my son in it ( even if she isnt so keen !)

does anyone have any inclination as to where i might stand ?
Thanks
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ontoit



Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, and I suggested you:

Get a laywer (to discuss the legal possibilities)

Enroll in Berlitz (to improve you English in preparation for teaching)

Bring cash (to support yourself while you explore your options.)

Sorry if it wasn't helpful.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're "determined to build a life there and teach", why not just get the TEFL and use it to get your FM3?
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englishsettler



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, have you not considered i have a son there ? if you were in that situation would you not feel you had some right to be there ? I want migratory status.
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ontoit



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not offer to bring your son to England? You wouldn't have to worry about visas or work?
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englishsettler



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great idea.......one problem, she doesnt want to do that Wink thats why we are in situation we are in now.
Anyway, whats wrong with me trying to make a life in the country my baby son lives in ?
surely it cant be such a big deal to have that right ?
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a Mexican lawyer but I think you have a major problem. Mexican law very strongly favors the Mexican national parent in situations such as yours. If Mom doesn't want you to see your child, you will need a lawyer, and likely a very good one. Be prepared for a long, expensive legal battle.

I thought ontoit's advice, while rather rudely given, was accurate.
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Michael Smith



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, there's pretty much nothing you can do except try to find a job and apply for your FM3 that way. Another option (if the mother of your child is willing!) would be to not get a divorce and pretend you're still together. The only problem with that option is that you become an economic dependant, meaning you can live in Mexico, but not work there (legally). It might not be fair, but getting a job and getting your papers that way is by far the simplest way to go.
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saraswati



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this link for a complete list of requirements for obtaining citizenship.

http://www.sre.gob.mx/tramites/nacionalidad/tema1e.htm

As it states, you need to have lived in Mexico for at least two years before you can apply. Best advice has already been given...get your TEFL certificate, get a job and an FM3.

Good luck!
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

englishsettler wrote:
well, have you not considered i have a son there ? if you were in that situation would you not feel you had some right to be there ? I want migratory status.


Frankly, no. How can your son sponsor you for citizenship when he is just a little boy? Can he get you a job, pay your rent or guarantee your good moral character?

And I bet his mother would be more likely to give you visiting rights and so forth if you had your own job and means of support.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on. This is a common misconception it seems. Marrying a Mexican or producing Mexican babies is not a free ticket to bypass Immigration requirements. Your spouse will have to prove means to support you because you ARE a foreigner and there are regulations to follow for foreigners living in the country. If she can't show means, you don't get your 'Ama de Casa' FM3. Sad
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Polly0607



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I�m not sure what you mean by "I want migratory status", but your only option is this:

1. Do a TEFL certificate.
2. Get your degree, birth certificate and TEFL certificate legalized (or apostilled depending on your country).
3. Come to Mexico and get a job offer.
4. Get your FM3 work visa.
5. After two years, apply for Mexican citizenship on the grounds of having a Mexican born child. It doesn't matter if you are not married to the mother anymore as long as your name is on the birth certificate. Here is the link to the requirements.
http://www.sre.gob.mx/tramites/nacionalidad/tema1e.htm

This way you could have an amicable divorce, visit your son often and make a life for yourself here.

I have been here three years, but married to a Mexican for ten years. We have two children born in Canada. I will be applying for citizenship in the spring because of my marriage. I have to wait until the spring because you need to have at least 6 months on your FM3 to apply. Mine expires in February, so I will have to wait until I renew again.

Hope this helps.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't he entitled to an FM2 through marriage to a Mexican citizen? Providing she agrees to do all the paperwork with you, I think it's viable. She does need to be willing to sign it all though.
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englishsettler



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: sigh... Reply with quote

Polly, thanks for your constructive answer. It makes total sense that if i have a son who lives in mexico, ie another country.........and i am here in UK....i should have some right to live there eventually and be with him if i want to have contact with him.
To all those other sceptics who answered this.....try not to be so judgemental....my wish to be there is genuine and it is not a case of me not having tried to support my son.
anyway, i have nothing to prove, i just came here searching for some insight into what right i could have.
I want to teach english anyway and that is my main motivation for being on this site.
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englishsettler



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Right on. This is a common misconception it seems. Marrying a Mexican or producing Mexican babies is not a free ticket to bypass Immigration requirements."

SAMANTHA, CAN I ALSO ADD: i never set out to get married to a mexican and as you put it , produced a baby, to get a free ticket to bypass immigration ?!?!?! i got married to someone who i was in love with and she happened to be mexican...so, think before you make comments as this comment makes you look silly.
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