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btwninchinatwn



Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Fired! Reply with quote

Hello, not my ideal first post!
Today, my school fired me, on the spot, with no written warning and no notice, effective today! Basically it was over some (I think) very trivial matters and as my money situation is dire I have no time to think, just act. I dont want to fight it as I know I can not win, but I have some queries, and any advice or suggestions would go a long way right now. I was in the process of negotiating contract terms, so the only official piece of paper is the government contract, which says nothing about written warnings or a notice period. So...
*If I lose my job do I lose my Z visa?
*Do I HAVE to hand in my working visa?
*If my visa is cancelled, can I go to HK and apply for a new business or work visa?
*Will this affect any future work opportunities in China?
*Does your school need a teacher!

Any advice or prior experiences will help greatly.
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tw



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 3898

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Fired! Reply with quote

btwninchinatwn wrote:
*If I lose my job do I lose my Z visa?


You mean if you lose your RPF? No, unless you give your passport to you former employer. See the thread www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=42506

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*Do I HAVE to hand in my working visa?


Come again? Your visa is a sticker in your passport, so how are you supposed to hand it in and WHY would you want to hand it in?

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*If my visa is cancelled, can I go to HK and apply for a new business or work visa?


You can not apply for a new Z (work) visa unless you have the documents needed from your next employer. But you should get a release letter from your former employer.

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*Will this affect any future work opportunities in China?


Only if you don't have a release letter.
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btwninchinatwn



Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers tw,
Does the release letter have to say anything specific? Or just that I'm goooone!
I asked the visa question b/c the school today asked me to bring my passport in tomorrow, to get the visa cancelled.
"that only happens to other people, it wont happen to me"
ha ha yeah...
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cj750



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Posts: 3081
Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tell them that you sent the passport to the embassy to get additional pages..and then press them for a release letter stating that you have no further contract obligation...and if possible that you did a good job and pm me for a job lead....
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BlakeS



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 87
Location: Xian

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notify the PSB and the Foreign Experts Bureau if they don't supply you with your release forms. They *are* required to but that doesn't mean they will.

In some cases, if you notify them that your schools refuses to supply one then your next employer won't need to have it in order to transfer/renew your RPF.

But don't give your RPF (residence permit) to your current/former employer or it *will* be cancelled and then you will be 100% required to take a little vacation to HK.
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englishgibson



Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Fired! Reply with quote

The release letter is a must! After you get it, go to the PSB and get your L for that residency permit sticker in your passport. Finding a new job in China is not difficult. Notifying foreign affairs would of what happened would be a good idea as well.

Good luck
and
cheers and beers
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Calories



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 361
Location: Chinese Food Hell

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea as to why they fired you?
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HGLTsuperstar



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And following on from the last question- have you checked your contract for the clauses about terminating contract etc. They have to have a reason that excludes them from paying/not giving notice. is there more to this?
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mike w



Joined: 26 May 2004
Posts: 1071
Location: Beijing building site