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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: American acquiring dual cit |
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Is it possible for Americans to acquire another nationality without losing their American citizenship? |
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fancynan
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: dual citz |
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It is possible to apply for a PASSPORT in another country without losing your US citizenship. I asked similar questions earlier but never got a straight answer. In the meantime, I applied for and received a British passport, because, having been born in England, I was already eligible. I have scoured the internet looking for the answer and have determined that applying for a passport for which you are eligible is NOT the same as applying for citizenship in another country. If you apply for citizenship (no prior ties, no eligibilty for dual citizenship) you may put your US citizenship in jeopardy. Go to the US State Department website (search on Google) for more info. |
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Pollux
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 224 Location: PL
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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: Citizenship |
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There's no "one size fits all" answer to this question for Americans or anyone else for that matter. The conditions for dual/multiple nationality and/or passports differ from one country to another; you therefore have to ascertain the regulations of the countries in question. |
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Serious_Fun

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1171 Location: terra incognita
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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As an American citizen you are required to use your US passport when leaving and/or entering the US.
Once outside of the US you may use the valid passport of your choosing...
...visit the US State Dept. site for exact details, as Pollux suggests. |
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Pollux
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 224 Location: PL
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you've been visiting Lori Berenson, supporting Tupac Amaru or Sendero Luminoso, you shouldn't have a problem in getting a different nationality. |
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GF
Joined: 08 Jun 2003 Posts: 238 Location: Tallinn
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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According to the American Embassy in Tallinn you will NOT lose your American citizenship if you become a citizen of another country. I asked in person and was pleasantly surprised by the answer. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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According to the American Embassy in Tallinn you will NOT lose your American citizenship if you become a citizen of another country. |
But depending on your actions, you may be asked to surrender your citizenship/passport. See www.debito.org for an example. |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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And Russia now requires a written rejection of your native (American, inmy case) citizenship - so even though I'm eligible to apply (as the spouse of a Russian who is a resident), I'll never have a Russian passport - I'm an American, first and last. |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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how is Lori these days? I bet she has dual citizenship |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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rusmeister wrote: |
And Russia now requires a written rejection of your native (American, inmy case) citizenship - so even though I'm eligible to apply (as the spouse of a Russian who is a resident), I'll never have a Russian passport - I'm an American, first and last. |
Telling the Russian gov't that you have "rejected" your American citizenship does not negate your American citizenship. It only makes the Russians feel better. |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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tedkarma wrote: |
rusmeister wrote: |
And Russia now requires a written rejection of your native (American, inmy case) citizenship - so even though I'm eligible to apply (as the spouse of a Russian who is a resident), I'll never have a Russian passport - I'm an American, first and last. |
Telling the Russian gov't that you have "rejected" your American citizenship does not negate your American citizenship. It only makes the Russians feel better. |
Yes, but would you ever want them waving a paper like that in the Consulate's face? Remember, some of those Patriot Act provisions waiting in the wings call for stripping a citizen of their citizenship involuntarily. I won't give them a foot to stand on, and I'll pay the price, much as I'd like Russia to accept me as a citizen. |
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coffeedrinker
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 149
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I looked into this some time ago when I was in a serious relationship with a guy from another country, and came across the same idea Ted Karma has posted...telling one country that you give up your US (or other) citizenship is relevant for that country but not necessarily for the US (or other) country, and in fact in the US there is some kind of process for giving up your citizenship which is actually lengthy and difficult. There are definitely Americans with dual citizenship.
Although I suppose given the current political climate in the US, I can see the point of rusmeister's concerns too... |
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guangho

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 476 Location: in transit
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know, the only ways you can lose your U.S. citizenship is to be stripped of it by the government (a lengthy court procedure) or by renouncing it at a U.S. Embassy. HOWEVER, your passport does say that one of the grounds for being stripped of U.S. citizenship is taking an oath of allegiance to a hostile foreign power. Is Russia hostile? |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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If the President announces that a nation is hostile, *boom!* it is.
Not law. The whim of a man in power. (Didn't Congress used to have to declare war, for instance?) |
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