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Staying in the U.S. (short term)

 
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yavannah



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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Location: OH, USA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Staying in the U.S. (short term) Reply with quote

Hi. I just finished my CELTA about 3 weeks ago and I'm finding that it may be more difficult than I thought to get an ESL job in my country of choice (the UAE.) I was told by the CELTA tutors that it is possible to get a job with a CELTA in the U.S. I have that and a bachelor's in English. I was trying to figure out if it was possible to find anything in the U.S. with those qualifications. I was really hoping I might be able to find something short-term, so I could keep looking for work overseas. All my research has been geared to finding work abroad, so I really don't know much of anything about ESL in this country. So far most of the jobs I've seen offered either require a master's or a k-12 education certificate. Any info/advice would be much appreciated. Smile
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Staying in the U.S. (short term) Reply with quote

yavannah wrote:
I was told by the CELTA tutors that it is possible to get a job with a CELTA in the U.S.
So far most of the jobs I've seen offered either require a master's or a k-12 education certificate.

As you can now see, the CELTA instructors were not exactly forthcoming with accurate information. Yes, with your BA and a CELTA, you might find work in the US (I'm assuming you are American or can legally work in the USA), but those jobs will be low-end part-time TESL jobs. If you want a decent-paying full-time job, you'll almost certainly need to have (a) teaching experience, and (b) a related/higher degree.

If you look through the forums, you'll see that folks in your situation tend to go overseas (especially Asia), teach overseas for a couple of years, and then if they wish to continue teaching in their home country, return to school for a masters degree.
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yavannah



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, thanks. It looks like for the better overseas jobs that's what one has to do as well. Just out of curiosity, does anyone consider DELTA in this country or does it pretty much have to be a master's? Oh, and yes, I am American.
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rusmeister



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650 is right.

CELTA DELTA and other such certificates will get you into a minor language center that offers part-time work with no benefits at $12-$15/hr. The students that go to those centers pay $300-$500 a month easily (each - maybe more now). Do the math. You'll get less than 10% of the take and it won't be enough to live on. That's why most of the teachers at those centers are college students themselves.

Oh, and Kaplan isn't any different. They put a little more money into infrastructure, but their practices are the same as the small schools.

If you want to teach in public schools, a Master's is not (yet) required, but a teaching certificate (on the West Coast it's called a 'credential') is and involves an average of 2 years of study, although one-year intensive - and expensive - programs exist. The teaching certificate in the US does little to prepare you for the classroom, as it's primarily designed to indoctrinate the teachers to socially engineer the children they will be "teaching".

I have worked in public and private schools (as a teacher) on both the east and west coasts, for what it's worth, and yes, I do hold a valid (and worthless) certificate.
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