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[Ben Round de Bloc]

[Guy Courchesne]

I wonder if the reverse is true? Do the mother and child have an automatic right to live and work in the UK?

[ontoit]

Given the OP's description of the romance, it seems that she would face the same difficulties getting the parerwork for England approved as he will have becoming legal in Mexico.

[englishsettler]

i will set you straight on this as well.........i organised a married spouse visa for her with ease for the UK.....

[Ben Round de Bloc]

[lozwich]

[MELEE]

Wow, when the cat's away the mice will play!

Okay, look, you do have right to nationality by being the parent of a Mexican. Don't contact immigration. They don't handle citizenship issue you want Relaciones Exteriores. See the info on page http://www.sre.gob.mx/tramites/nacionalidad/tema1e.htm
You will need to come to Mexico on some other type of visa and reside in Mexico for two years (as another poster said) LEGALLY, so yes, you will need to get an FM3. If you stay together with the mother of your child you can get a Spouce FM3, but as a MAN, you have to prove you can support your wife finacially. Wives have no such obligation. If you are a qualified English teacher you can get an FM3 independently of your wife. What can I say it's a sexist country. The process will take about a year, after those two years are up, so we are looking at a three year process. The price will undoubtedly go up but now it cost $1320 for reception of papers and $1885 for the citizenship. If you were to work things out with your wife, after the two years of residence in Mexico you could apply for citizenship based on being married to a Mexican, that is much cheaper and easier (it costs $1130)
In order to get a job that pays enough to support your wife and child, or just the child if the case should be, you will need to have formal TEFL training, an advanced degree in law will open up some possiblities, but that plus something like a CELTA will open up SOOO many more. You will have to get a job at a private university to make enough to support a family. Possibly you could do it teaching private business classes (where that law degree will help open doors) in Mexico City.
What part of Mexico is this child in? that will make a big difference, it is a big country and travel times are very long. If they live in Merida and you get a job in Monterrey, well you might as well stay in the UK you'll be so far away from them.
Despite the fact that Mexico thinks its people who immigrate should have all the rights in the world, it doesn't like to give many rights to the people who choose to immigrate to Mexico.
Sorry that you took the board's responses to be hostile. I think they just wanted to give you the could hard reality. You might want to also look into other Mexico (non teaching) forums, like mexicoconnect, they might be someone in your situatuion on there.
(oh by the way, it used to be you could apply for Mexican citizenship the day after the Mexican child was born, maybe you'd heard of that, but I guess there was some percived abuses with that system.)

[PlayadelSoul]

I am willing to bet that, with that attitude, he never touches an FM3.

[ls650]

[englishsettler]

Thanks to some of you for being so constructive.....to the others: why the hostility ?!?!
So, i will make things clear for all:
Im not after a free ride and im not angry.......im just someone who happens to like mexico alot, wants to work there and live there and find out if eventually i have some legal way to see my son.
I wont be supporting my wife and she wont be supporting me because our marriage broke down.
If i dont eventually get citizenship, then so be it, that is the way of the world.
However, I have an obligation to my son to forge a relationship even if his mother isnt so willing.

[Guy Courchesne]

Completely reasonable...I believe earlier advice of getting into Mexico through teaching English would be the simplest way to get established. Then you can work on personal affairs from the inside.

[englishsettler]

hi Guy......
thanks for that. dont worry im totally aware of my low standing there especially in a situation like this. i lived there for a while before.
Going through this process has left me with very realistic and low expectations.
As i say, i will go there to work and make a life and it maybe that i never have the means or hope of having anymore than a temporary FM3.... Still, es la vida...

[Samantha]

Note: I am replying to Guy's post

I believe that to be the truth alright. And another thing that may or may not be useful to pass along..... I have heard (and tend to believe) that if you are in the process of applying for naturalization and anyone, such as a bitter ex-spouse or ex-business partner, writes a letter indicating that you may not be a nice person, then you can forget about your application being approved.

[guty]

Just to answer Guy's post from earlier, I brought a Mexican wife and children to the UK this year.

The children have automatic right to live (and work if old enough) in the UK, the spouse doesn't, but has to prove certain things, i.e. a place to live, someone to support/guarantee they have no need to 'recourse to state funds', if these can be done, the spouse visa is a formality.

Sounds a lot more complex going the opposite direction.

Just out of interest, if we decided to move to Mexico would I need a visa to get a job or a job to get a visa?

Assuming we are still together and my wife would sign anything necessary, is having a Mexican spouse any help at all? From most of the replies given so far, it seems like it adds nothing, is this right, or is it because the OP can't count on his wife helping his application?

[PlayadelSoul]

Marriage and fatherhood definitely play a role in obtaining an FM, especially if you are going to be the breadwinner.