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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: Best LA Country/City for Atheists? |
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I am considering teaching in Latin America in 2007, living in the US at present. As far as Latin America goes,I have only limited experience in Mexico. While visiting there, I let my Mexican friends know that I don't believe, which was basically cool, but it felt like the topic was being reserved for future discussion. I like Mexico and could manage there with my "problem" but I would like to know if there is a better alternative.
What I am looking for is a city where the church has the least influence, and where free exchanges of ideas won't be a scandal. I am guessing that I am looking for a large city with lots of foreigners and artsy types. I don't want to unconvert anyone, just live in a good atmosphere. Any ideas (based on experience?) |
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RyanS

Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 356
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: |
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If atheism is your only "political" leaning what are you worrying about? Theres atheists in South America, Liberation Theology even embraces some tentents of Materialism.
The only completely Atheist state in Latin America is Cuba.  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The only completely Atheist state in Latin America is Cuba. Smile |
States don't hold religious views...only people do.
OP, I would think it difficult to answer your question. The Vatican is probably the only place out there where the Church is on every (the only?) street corner influencing people...
Religion is a personal affair. While it might shape a person's worldview, it certainly isn't at the cost of the exchange of free ideas? I don't see how religion is the opposite of philosophy. Give Latinos some credit...you'll easily find the crowd you're looking for. |
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NikNak
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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The only completely Atheist state in Latin America is Cuba.  |
I can't agree with you. Just because Cuba is communist doesn't make it atheist, if anything far from it.
They celebrate Catholic/Christian holidays over there |
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RyanS

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes but the state is atheist, its marxist-leninist. Atheists don't say "We will burn down all churches and kill the priests" as told by 1960s propaganda. They celebrate indigenious, islamic and voodoo traditions too. Nothing wrong with athiest governments. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| In my two-plus years in Mexico, the only person who has ever asked me about my religious beliefs is the annoying Jehovah's Witness who comes knocking on my door once every couple of months. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Calling a state atheist is deceptive. A state doesn't hold beliefs one way or the other. The people who pull the levers - in some places, those people express the will of those they govern - hold such beliefs.
An example - Mexico has very strong laws concerning separation of church and state. Does that make Mexico atheist? Over 90% of the population would call themselves Catholic.
Take Iran as another example. By all counts, an Islamic theocracy. That still doesn't keep individual Iranians from holding whatever belief they would like, including atheism.
Ls650, did you get counted in the census last year? They asked me of my religious orientation. |
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ls650

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm, you're right about the census, now that I think about it. |
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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the replies. I am probably over-thinking it. Maybe I am just getting crankier in my middle age. I am sure I could find like minded friends in just about any major city. (Maybe even Vatican City, but I am not EU.) Still, if anyone has any opinion about cities in South or Central America which are particularly open, or about places to avoid, I would love to read it. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Cuba is a secular state. Athiest is a little imprecise if you ask me...
Justin
PS- in Ecuador, practically everybody is catholic, but it doesn't seem to impact their view on other things very much. |
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