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Best LA Country/City for Atheists?
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Best LA Country/City for Atheists? Reply with quote

I am considering teaching in Latin America in 2007, living in the US at present. As far as Latin America goes,I have only limited experience in Mexico. While visiting there, I let my Mexican friends know that I don't believe, which was basically cool, but it felt like the topic was being reserved for future discussion. I like Mexico and could manage there with my "problem" but I would like to know if there is a better alternative.

What I am looking for is a city where the church has the least influence, and where free exchanges of ideas won't be a scandal. I am guessing that I am looking for a large city with lots of foreigners and artsy types. I don't want to unconvert anyone, just live in a good atmosphere. Any ideas (based on experience?)
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If atheism is your only "political" leaning what are you worrying about? Theres atheists in South America, Liberation Theology even embraces some tentents of Materialism.

The only completely Atheist state in Latin America is Cuba. Smile
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only completely Atheist state in Latin America is Cuba. Smile


States don't hold religious views...only people do.

OP, I would think it difficult to answer your question. The Vatican is probably the only place out there where the Church is on every (the only?) street corner influencing people...

Religion is a personal affair. While it might shape a person's worldview, it certainly isn't at the cost of the exchange of free ideas? I don't see how religion is the opposite of philosophy. Give Latinos some credit...you'll easily find the crowd you're looking for.
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NikNak



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanS wrote:


The only completely Atheist state in Latin America is Cuba. Smile


I can't agree with you. Just because Cuba is communist doesn't make it atheist, if anything far from it.

They celebrate Catholic/Christian holidays over there
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but the state is atheist, its marxist-leninist. Atheists don't say "We will burn down all churches and kill the priests" as told by 1960s propaganda. They celebrate indigenious, islamic and voodoo traditions too. Nothing wrong with athiest governments.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my two-plus years in Mexico, the only person who has ever asked me about my religious beliefs is the annoying Jehovah's Witness who comes knocking on my door once every couple of months.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calling a state atheist is deceptive. A state doesn't hold beliefs one way or the other. The people who pull the levers - in some places, those people express the will of those they govern - hold such beliefs.

An example - Mexico has very strong laws concerning separation of church and state. Does that make Mexico atheist? Over 90% of the population would call themselves Catholic.

Take Iran as another example. By all counts, an Islamic theocracy. That still doesn't keep individual Iranians from holding whatever belief they would like, including atheism.

Ls650, did you get counted in the census last year? They asked me of my religious orientation.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, you're right about the census, now that I think about it.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I am probably over-thinking it. Maybe I am just getting crankier in my middle age. I am sure I could find like minded friends in just about any major city. (Maybe even Vatican City, but I am not EU.) Still, if anyone has any opinion about cities in South or Central America which are particularly open, or about places to avoid, I would love to read it.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuba is a secular state. Athiest is a little imprecise if you ask me...

Justin


PS- in Ecuador, practically everybody is catholic, but it doesn't seem to impact their view on other things very much.
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