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englishgibson
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 Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: English First Shenzhen any information |
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| ...the OP abandoned you... |
no, the OP pmed me as I said. Does that mean abandoning....? In any case, it's about others too as those forums are not only for YOU or ME.
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Isn't this above to be discussed more than anything else?
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What would you like to say about a post that you have been repost
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Well, I wish you paid more attention to that then to sexy K B from EF recruiting. 
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cj750
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| Unlike you, KB is honest in her intentions... |
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clark.w.griswald
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| just like Dalian..the EFers were happy with the school and the company..so what is so bad about EF ..if the employees are happy and identify a particular BAD EF..no problem...but you have attacked any and all that do not agree with your scorch earth policy towards EF.. |
Exactly.
Anyone who blindly supports or condemns a chain of schools solely based upon the name on the door is kidding him or herself and misleading others. The fact remains that some EF schools are bad, some are good, and the rest fall somewhere in the middle. Anyone who took up the earlier suggestion to search this forum for my posts about EF in the past would clearly see that this is what I do here - I try to identify which are the EF schools that don't have good track records and which ones do as this is valuable information that actually helps teachers.
As to the question of whether or not I have worked for EF well I have never answered this and never will. If I state that I have then some will suggest that I must therefore be an EF crony. If I state that I haven't then the very same people will try to suggest that I don't know what I am talking about. It's interesting how EG automatically jumps to the conclusion that I haven't worked there though - kind of raises questions about how willing he is to go off on a tangent without evidence to support his claims. I certainly do not feel the need to validate myself - argue the point, not the person making the point. If I am wrong in what I state here about EF then feel free to explain where and how.
More importantly though EG why not take the time to explain the points that you have made and that I questioned in my earlier post. Surely you should be able to support those accusations as you were the one who made them. |
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vikdk
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| As to the question of whether or not I have worked for EF well I have never answered this and never will. If I state that I have then some will suggest that I must therefore be an EF crony. If I state that I haven't then the very same people will try to suggest that I don't know what I am talking about. |
I think most normal people would take it as an act of honesty if you ever did care to answer that question - any conclusions they come to thereafter are their own problem
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cj750
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| It's interesting how EG automatically jumps to the conclusion that I haven't worked there though - kind of raises questions about how willing he is to go off on a tangent without evidence to support his claims |
Even though I have disagreed with Clark in the past this time I can find no fault....he is dead on...about this...English will draw conclusions based on a shotgun approach of dissatisfaction without ever going into specifics..to publicise his tangent without evidence ..and to use diversionary tactics such as re posting someone else's weak post as proof, illustrates a lack of support for those accusations.
If English has a grip ..then lets hear it... |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Well, look at the party here
Does anyone benefit from the cr*p we write on boards sometimes?
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| Unlike you, KB is honest in her intentions... |
And you are as honest as well, aren'cha? Are you trying to "open the door" yet to another kinda discussion on here?
This thread's OP is GONE WITH THE WIND and the question of his/her honesty as well.  How convenient to some that keep on coming here for more blood
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It is my understanding that many people who come to china believe they come there to just play and drink and have a good time. Many are not there to work.
I take the good with the bad. As I see it, from what the few of you had griped about. The EF company is not as bad as it looks. I have seen more good reviews from all the websites I have been to than bad reviews. The only bad reviews come from the same few people who frequent all these sites.
I have reviewed blacklists of school, I have gone to many teachers posts for china.
One thing I know is that a person cant base all they know aobut a company, from the post of a few individuals who might have had problems with management.
It is like with any place you go. YOU cant base your decision based on the facts of a few disgruntled employees.
Every company is going to have itd good points and it bad. The will be the same no matter where you go. The best thing to do is do the best you can.
Eveyone says that there aer lots of jobs in china for English teachers. If the first one is not what you expected, you will know that another is right around the corner.
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This has obviously been written by a Chinese person. The errors in syntax and the choice of phrasing - as in translated Chinese proverbs - are all too familiar.
Please, no liars or cheats on this forum. You work for EF and have been told to post this. That much is obvious. |
Keep it coming and "jumping" ladies ...there aren't any "automatic conclusions" on here, are there?
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cheers and beers to us |
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KES
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I thank the posters who came here and posted honest accounts of their experiences at EF.
I'm not sure why one monomaniacal poster with a visceral hatred of EF keeps beating the same old drum (okay, maybe because they fired him) here.
Lets try to help folks here. It doesn't help newbies if the shills and haters dominate this forum.
Englishgibson, a bit of advice, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Time to stop your hating. Let it go. They fired you. So what? Move on.
If you can't be impartial, you can't be useful to the newbies here.
Peace and tranquility man. Now go and smell the flowers. |
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englishgibson
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Speaking of examples of Internet (forums) abuse
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cj750
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In your case English it is self abuse... and still not answering Clarks Questions are you..keep wank in...English |
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cj750
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quote]Speaking of examples of Internet (forums) abuse
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In your case English it is self abuse... and still not answering Clarks Questions are you..why not stop jerkin everyone around ...English
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: English First Shenzhen any information |
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Do you have to abuse by double-posting on?
Cheers and beers to the honest users |
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cj750
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| Sorry English..I thought your were too simple to get it the first time...note the addition of the word "jerkin" as in "off"... |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: English First Shenzhen any information |
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"jer*in" as in "off" last is what you wanna, don'cha?
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methos wrote:
It is my understanding that many people who come to china believe they come there to just play and drink and have a good time. Many are not there to work.
I take the good with the bad. As I see it, from what the few of you had griped about. The EF company is not as bad as it looks. I have seen more good reviews from all the websites I have been to than bad reviews. The only bad reviews come from the same few people who frequent all these sites.
I have reviewed blacklists of school, I have gone to many teachers posts for china.
One thing I know is that a person cant base all they know aobut a company, from the post of a few individuals who might have had problems with management.
It is like with any place you go. YOU cant base your decision based on the facts of a few disgruntled employees.
Every company is going to have itd good points and it bad. The will be the same no matter where you go. The best thing to do is do the best you can.
Eveyone says that there aer lots of jobs in china for English teachers. If the first one is not what you expected, you will know that another is right around the corner.
Someone replied:
This has obviously been written by a Chinese person. The errors in syntax and the choice of phrasing - as in translated Chinese proverbs - are all too familiar.
Please, no liars or cheats on this forum. You work for EF and have been told to post this. That much is obvious. |
Liars, cheats and j..... offs on forums sometimes come by, but still the forums are a scource of info 
Peace to aallllll
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cheers and beers to the hard working FTs in China |
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The Voice Of Reason
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cj750
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| Well one thing for sure ...EG has done more to promte EF than any other person on this board...and he has made it clear that, by example, that just about anyone has a chance to climb the language mill ladder.. |
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