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Is gaijin a bad word (part 2) : A little story...

 
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Bad word
Yes very
23%
 23%  [ 3 ]
No
38%
 38%  [ 5 ]
It's ok
38%
 38%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 13

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Like a Rolling Stone



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Is gaijin a bad word (part 2) : A little story... Reply with quote

Anyone who remembers my last exploration of this topic will know it is a bit of a hot potato. But you know what? I was in an izakaya with a lady friend Very Happy and two oba-sans were sitting next to us and chatting then we talked to them and they kept saying "how is your gaijin san boyfriend?" Shocked I didn't understand most of wht they said. My lingo is STILL very bad but they sais "gaijin san gaijin san gaijin san nani nani nani..." I was a bit surprised but I didn't make a scene. Cool Then when we left my lady friend said that she was a Korean and carried a gaijin card so the oba sans didn't know they were talking to TWO gaijin sans Laughing

What do you think about that?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stone,

Sorry, but I won't be taking part in your poll. My answer depends on the situation.

If two foreigners call each other gaijin, it is ok.
If a Japanese calls me a gaijin, it depends on the context and his intonation (and my perceived meaning behind it).
If a foreigner calls himself a gaijin to a Japanese, he is probably unaware that there is another word, or he is being very casual.
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Like a Rolling Stone



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Stone,

Sorry, but I won't be taking part in your poll. My answer depends on the situation.

If two foreigners call each other gaijin, it is ok.
If a Japanese calls me a gaijin, it depends on the context and his intonation (and my perceived meaning behind it).
If a foreigner calls himself a gaijin to a Japanese, he is probably unaware that there is another word, or he is being very casual.


That's fine. Thanks for the Response. My meaning was that if you use "san" does it make it more polite? My OP was confusing, sorry. Embarassed
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my view, both "gaijin" and "gaijin-san" get old after a while. But it's nothing I can't live with. When I'm back in the U.S. I make sure to call them "Nips" in return. If I want to be polite, it's "Mr. Nip."

No one has done it in this thread, but idiot foreigners who tack an "s" on to the end to render it "gainjinS," on the other hand, deserve a punch in the throat.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
In my view, both "gaijin" and "gaijin-san" get old after a while. But it's nothing I can't live with. When I'm back in the U.S. I make sure to call them "Nips" in return. If I want to be polite, it's Mr. Nip.

No one has done it in this thread, but idiot foreigners who tack an "s" on to the end to render it "gainjinS," on the other hand, deserve a punch in the throat.



Thanks for the response shuize. Everyone likes to see some retaliatory racism. By the way I did put an s on the end of gaijin san in my OP. Is a rabbit punch on the way? Shocked
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Stoner,
Guess I've got one coming too because I do that all the time.
No surprise there, eh?
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Like a Rolling Stone



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweetsee wrote:
Hey Stoner,
Guess I've got one coming too because I do that all the time.
No surprise there, eh?


I'd always take a punch for a lady Cool
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Stoner, I resemble that remark.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stone wrote:
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My meaning was that if you use "san" does it make it more polite? My OP was confusing, sorry

VERY confusing and totally different from the poll itself. Still not voting on it, though.

As for adding "san", it doesn't make it any more polite to me. Although it's not as harsh as the N word to black people, imagine someone trying to get by with using MISTER "N".
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Stone wrote:
Quote:
My meaning was that if you use "san" does it make it more polite? My OP was confusing, sorry

VERY confusing and totally different from the poll itself. Still not voting on it, though.

As for adding "san", it doesn't make it any more polite to me. Although it's not as harsh as the N word to black people, imagine someone trying to get by with using MISTER "N".


ok, I was reading Will ferguson's book called Hokkaido highway Blues. He said he liked the way some people said gaijin san as if it weren't so bad. Just trying to get the opinion of other posters Razz
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a Rolling Stone wrote:
Everyone likes to see some retaliatory racism.


You bet. It's the least I can do.

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By the way I did put an s on the end of gaijin san in my OP. Is a rabbit punch on the way?


Yes, I missed that. Please punch yourself in the throat.
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japanman



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm down boys.
Same with any word to describe non-citizens of a coutry. Gaijin, farang in thailand etc, just depends on the context, very simple I think.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: A happy story Reply with quote

Every evening for three years, I have passed the same hostess club in the front street in my town, and there is a tout or greeter, or whatever you prefer to call him, who stands out front to lure salarimen in for a drink or five.

I never said a word to him until last year. I thought, you know, he's part of my landscape, and though I have philosophical problems with the whole hostessing industry here, I should just take a chance and say hello. After all, everybody's got to make their way in this world, and who am I to judge. We've been chatting every night for a year about local places to go, the neighbour's cats, the bosozoku, whatever.

The other night, after a long day at work, I was making my way home on the other side of the street, in my own little world, grumbling about some petty thing about Japan that bugs me when I heard GAIJIN-SAN! OI! from across the road. I looked on the second call, and there he was, big grin, and he yelled OTSUKARE SAMA! So I gave him a big thumbs up and said thank you.

I used to get all irritated hearing the word gaijin, but he made my day by showing he cared that I'm part of the neighbourhood.
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