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Roskolnikov
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 Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:13 am Post subject: illegal privates and the law |
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howdy,
I just recently got back from a one year working holiday stint with berlitz. The only downside is that without a degree, immigration didn't like the idea of letting me continue to work there. So now I'll eveuntually be returning in June on a student visa. In the meantime however, I'm kinda desperate to get back there and see my very special lady friend...
I'm looking into Korea for some quick cash, but the idea of getting back to Japan asap hounds me.
Anyways, I met quite a few fellows out there doing the privates thing. Exactly how safe do you all figure it is from the ever annoying eyes of the immigration police?
Any opinions would be very very welcome!
-dax |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:38 am Post subject: not a real prob |
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There's no such thing as immigration police, but I suspect you meant that in jest.
Immigration doesn't look for people teaching privates, but if you pop in and out of the country on tourist visa long enough, they'll begin to notice. |
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Like a Rolling Stone
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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This thread's so old i found a little Japanese soldier still fighting the war here!  |
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Khyron
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Location: Tokyo Metro City
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Like a Rolling Stone wrote: |
| This thread's so old i found a little Japanese soldier still fighting the war here! |
Wow, you must be bored! |
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JimDunlop2
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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I have it on good authority (from a friend living in Siam) that the OP had long since moved to Ceylon and now lives in Rhodesia.
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Like a Rolling Stone
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| JimDunlop2 wrote: |
I have it on good authority (from a friend living in Siam) that the OP had long since moved to Ceylon and now lives in Rhodesia.
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wow! and only one post  by the way, my grandmoter says Rhodesia but I heasrd that aint too PC no more. And isn't Zimbabwe a bit abunai these days? 
wait, Ceylon is an old one too. You need new maps chap. |
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Like a Rolling Stone
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| JimDunlop2 wrote: |
Siam
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| This thread's so old i found a little Japanese soldier still fighting the war here! |
Woops!  well embarrassed, didn't get my own joke at first. 
man walks into his own joke.....Klang! |
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JimDunlop2
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No worries, mate! The King of Siam sends his regards!  |
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shuize
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesn't this thread's title answer it's own question? |
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Like a Rolling Stone
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| shuize wrote: |
| Doesn't this thread's title answer it's own question? |
he got arrested? |
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okyokotokyo
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: Re: not a real prob |
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| Glenski wrote: |
Immigration doesn't look for people teaching privates, but if you pop in and out of the country on tourist visa long enough, they'll begin to notice. |
Glenski, I'm curious about how long is "long enough." Could you stay on a tourist visa in Japan for the three months allotted, take a boat to Korea for the weekend, and then re-enter Japan for another three months with no problems? How many times do you think one could do this? (I realize you can't say exactly, but just an estimate.) Is doing this illegal? Do you know anyone who has done this?
Thanks a lot. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Being a tourist multiple times is not illegal. Teaching while on a tourist visa is. Immigration will be suspicious if you leave and come back many many times. You have to have a very good reason for doing so. What is too many? Who knows? I'd say 4 times would be pushing your luck. If you are denied then you won't be able to get your stuff, right? |
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Glenski
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| Glenski, I'm curious about how long is "long enough." Could you stay on a tourist visa in Japan for the three months allotted, take a boat to Korea for the weekend, and then re-enter Japan for another three months with no problems? How many times do you think one could do this? (I realize you can't say exactly, but just an estimate.) Is doing this illegal? Do you know anyone who has done this? |
As Gordon says, nobody can give you an answer. I would imagine that some people are halted the first time they try to come back. Others may get by half a dozen times or more. Sometimes it depends whether you use the same port. Twenty years ago, I renewed my tourist visa by going to Taipei for a weekend. Nobody bothered me when I returned for more time. Just be prepared to explain why you want to stay longer, show you have funding to do so, and have an address they can use to establish where you may be staying. If it's a hotel, cool. They won't slip by in the middle of the night 2 days later to confirm you are still there. Gordon has explained the legalities, so I won't reiterate what he wrote. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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My Canadian friend's mother likes Japan so much that she spends 4 or 5 months a year here, every year, usually on 2 or 3 separate visits. She says she has never been questioned.
On the other hand, 10 years ago when I was on a WHV, my boyfriend at the time, who was half-Malay, was taken to a room and questioned on his second trip to Japan in the same year to visit me. They let him in, but I don't know if he would have made it a third time.
They probably pull people over who fit the profile of an illegal worker, and I imagine my friend's mother- a kindly-looking, bespectacled lady in her 60s- doesn't fit the profile.
On the other hand, someone who stayed in Japan the full 90 days, spent two days in Korea and then turned around and came back to Japan more than once would probably make them quite suspicious. |
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furiousmilksheikali
Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Apsara wrote: |
On the other hand, 10 years ago when I was on a WHV, my boyfriend at the time, who was half-Malay, was taken to a room and questioned on his second trip to Japan in the same year to visit me. They let him in, but I don't know if he would have made it a third time.
They probably pull people over who fit the profile of an illegal worker, and I imagine my friend's mother- a kindly-looking, bespectacled lady in her 60s- doesn't fit the profile.
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It may also depend on the passport that you're carrying. Some nationalities will get a harder time unless they can prove they can support themselves. |
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