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dudeabides



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: It's all in the accent... Reply with quote

I want to do some classes where I teach students to distinguish between different accents. ie; American, British, Australian.

Anyone know of a website(s) where i can down some audio files of different examples? Like a soundboard or similar.

I know I could use films or tv shows, but I'm certain that someone out there can offer up a great site.

TIA!
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saint57



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What level is your class? Unless they're older and really advanced, I'd say chaos is the most likely result.
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Pollux



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can start at 'Routes of English' from the BBC.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the purpose of the course? To be able to say, "Hey that sounds like a Midwest American voice to me!"

Or to know the differences in various grammar?

Or to just get listening practice on various nationalities and dialects?

If it's the first one, I'd (humorously) suggest contacting the CIA for help.

If it's either of the other two, there's tons out there if you do a search on the Net.
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dudeabides



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, but I definitely think it's important for any high level student to be able to ditinguish between native English accents (American vs Australian, etc). Especially those students who deal with native speakers on a daily basis and in their business travels.

Understanding accents (also dialects and colloquialisms too) is a great way to break down barriers and build rapport with clients. It's a natural step for these students.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://hctv.humnet.ucla.edu/departments/linguistics/VowelsandConsonants/index/language.html


Scroll down and click on the two variaties of English given. It'd be a start.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this one
http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will. wrote:
Try this one
http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/
That site is seriously cool! Cool
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canuck



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: It's all in the accent... Reply with quote

dudeabides wrote:
I want to do some classes where I teach students to distinguish between different accents. ie; American, British, Australian.


Rolling Eyes

Really? There are so many very different American accents, as well as so many different British accents. What's the point? Here's an example from some in Chicago, here's a NY accent, here's a valley girl, here's posh accent, here's a working class northerner accent.

Tell them there are differences, but think about teaching them something useful. The differences in vocabulary would be 100 times more useful.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
Will. wrote:
Try this one
http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/
That site is seriously cool! Cool
I agree.
but I think I would be more likely to use it in teacher training sessions(which areas does this student need to work on, high/low priorities etc.)
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dudeabides



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Will.

Exactly what I was after. It went over quite well with the students.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad you all like it ...i

t came from one of us (on Dave's ) about a year ago
There are more like it in the thread. So have a search.....on this forum or the teacher training one.. or the APP ling.

This one is good too.


http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I'm sorry, but I definitely think it's important for any high level student to be able to ditinguish between native English accents (American vs Australian, etc). Especially those students who deal with native speakers on a daily basis and in their business travels.

Understanding accents (also dialects and colloquialisms too) is a great way to break down barriers and build rapport with clients. It's a natural step for these students.

I really don't get this point.

If you are a businessman, you will automatically know what nationality your clients are, right? Why does one have to be able to distinguish among the many accents?

Example:
Work with any American company. It may have people from around the nation, with accents like Forrest Gump, or John Wayne, or Gilda Radner, or Buddy Ebsen. What purpose does it serve to be able to say to them, "Hey, I can detect that you are from the Appalachians?" or some such conversation piece? There are far too many accents to distinguish anyhow unless you work for the CIA.

Example:
You deal with an American company. Its staff may have people from around the nation with various accents. So what? You know they are all Americans. What rapport are you going to build with them by distinguishing among their accents?
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure why some folks are beating up on the OP. Personally, I think it sounds like the basis for an interesting one-off class; I'm sure my more advanced students would enjoy hearing the different pronunciations and trying to pick out the differences.
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Like a Rolling Stone



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo, I sometimes do put accent in my class. most of my tapes in class have got different accents in them and they are sometimes cofusing for the students. One tape went "I have to pay the bills" in an Australian accent and my students kept thinking he was talking about "pie". Shocked At first I didn't understand why they were writing about pie but when I realized i said that they didn't understand the accent. I put a sentence on the board and kept repeating in differemt accents (My trainer said this is a bad thing to do). So i think that the software will has given is good to stop us mangling accents and give the students an interesting lesson. I agree with ls60 and thnaks Will. fr the software.

PS Glenski and Canuck sometimes get sarcastic about things. Just their way, pay no attention. Cool
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