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Any advice on ELS Riyadh or Riyadh in general
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was he with the spooks before he came here ?
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Bradley tale sounds very interesting, can someone tell us the full story? Spooks and all?
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KSA-UK



Joined: 03 May 2005
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Location: Sandy Arabia

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junaid,

With an MA in Linguistics you should go for something else. Be patient and apply for Uni/government jobs; the money's better, hols are very good and you won't have to do double shift like at ELS Riyadh.
If I were you, I would go for Jubail/Yanbu or any other government institution.
10k is reasonnable for your qualifications...
for more info on ELS please PM...

All the best
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He would be lucky to get 10,000 SR a month, given his lack of experience.

Try Hail University.
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Junaid



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks KSA-UK,

Check your message-box: you have mail.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I don't think he was ever enamored of the Saudi government.


Who knows, much less cares, what Bradley 'really' thought, but it is a fact that once upon a time, in a Kingdom not so far away, Bradley was your classic sycophantic 'journalist' bought off by oil money, or at least by a job as a hack on a lame expat rag.

FYI, my dear Q of S, Bradley was, as stated above, a hack at the Arab Snooze a few years back. My colleagues and I were known to have a good larf at his expense when yet another of his poorly written homages to the powers that be made the front pages of said rag. He would intersperse his praise for sundry lofty personages with self-praise: going on and on about how superior he was to the general run of expat (not difficult, I know); about how he, unlike them, would venture outside compound walls to discover the 'real' Saudi Arabia, about how he wasn't scared of bearded men and veiled women and how... oh well, you get the picture. Basically, as far as Bradley was concerned, it was all sweetness and light in the K of SA, once you got out of the compounds, that is.

Then about two or three years ago, something odd happened. Bradley switched sides, and came out with a book (the subject of a lengthy thread on this very site) 'exposing' the Kingdom. There are various theories as to his sudden change of heart: he may, as I suggested, simply have realised that being a professional smug expat wasn't the money end of the business, or he may have fallen seriously afoul of some higher-up.

In his defense, I would say that what I've read of his more recent work is not so bad, and, unlike so many of the professional Saudi bashers these days, he does at least have some clue whereof he speaks. It's the sudden change in sides that makes me suspicous and causes me to quesiton his credibility. Far-right Israeli 'think' tank? I dunno. The stuff I've seen from him isn't quite harsh enough on the Kingdom, I would say. In any case, I though KSA was Israel's friend now? Ooops, Cleo, getting a tad "political" again...[/i]
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