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laughing_magpie06 · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 282

another EF gripe, whats new?! Crying or Very sad

this mob are totally dishonest. have three schools in parts of jakarta that would bore you and depress you like you wouldnt believe. have been known to fire people without reason to avoid reimbursing airfares or fulfill contracts. always use falling student numbers as an excuse. watch out for a guy named dave and a woman named jeane. these people are total snakes.

Dave Nesbit · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 16

I am the artist referred to as �snake� by Maggie here, no doubt another disgruntled ex-employee sacked for either incompetence or misconduct. Which one was it, Maggie?

Seeing as I now no longer work at EF West Jakarta, and haven�t done so for some time, you must have been harboring your grudge for quite a while. If so, why let the world know about it now?

I guess you�ve probably been too busy looking for a job these past few months since your dismissal to write about your �gripe�?

Looking at your scribble above, a couple of points you might like to clarify, Mags.

Firstly, what exactly do you find especially depressing about Kebon Jeruk, Meruya or Karawaci? They are average run of the mill places. They are, in short, Jakarta, Indonesia. If you don�t like it here�.etc, etc.

Secondly, dishonest? Moi? Examples please, and don�t give me the tosh about have been known to fire people without reason to avoid reimbursing airfares or fulfill contracts, unless of course you want to give specific examples? As stated above, I only ever fired incompetents or planks.

Identify yourself and I�ll be able to remember which label applies to you.

gugelhupf · Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek

Dave Nesbit · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 16

Oh dear,

(big sigh) I wasn�t being literal. I was being sardonic. I was using sarcasm in questioning why Mags had taken so long in voicing her gripe.

Ok guglebum? Got it now? Please let me know if it�s still going over your head.

beefer · Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: java

does anyone else out there think that this " magpie" and " papillon" are the same posters?....heres why i feel this way....

1.) papillon has suddenly disappeared( he may just be on vacation, and i do miss you paps), and magpie arrives.
2.) magpie appears to be griping about something that suposedly occured months ago at ef ( according to mr. nesbit) and papillon is still griping about things that supposedly happened to him YEARS ago at another ef.
3.) magpie refers to this ef( 3 branches, sorry) as a " mob", this is the same term papillon has used to refer to other ef's( i think...i'll have to double check that one now that i think about it).

i'm not saying that they are the same person and i don't really care if they aren't, but Dave Nesbit, you can send me a pm and i'll let in on who it most likely is.

beefer · Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: java

....oooops, almost forgot.
4.) magpie stupidly calls people out by name and basically slanders them without giving any REAL examples as to why he has chosen to do this (calling dave a snake), and papillon did this on a seemingly daily basis.

if this is paps, then i have to say that i missed you. if it isn't, then its nice to hear from you and i look forward to see how you back up your comments. however, if it really is paps, then you won't.

laughing_magpie06 · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 282

sorry beefer......i am not paps although i have read some of his work.
i'm a first time writer, long time reader.

guruengerish · Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 424 Location: Australia

Hey, I take things as I find them.

I found EF Kebun Jeruk to be a fair place to work for a few years ago. I have a few gripes about the EF system, but when you consider some of the teachers who roll up, the bosses have their share of gripes too. The only persons I saw fired in two years was a chronic alcholic, who collapsed in the classrooom three times before he was moved on, and a certain DoS who liked to peek into windows.

The management were a lot more caring and considerate than some EF directors I've known.

Sure, they could have paid a bit more attention to the needs of teachers and housing, but they in turn only rented the houses - not owned them.

It was a good stepping stone to other schools, and that's not to be taken as a derogatory comment.

laughing_magpie06 · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 282

interesting......a certain DOS who likes to peek in windows.
is that certain dos the one who has posted on this site?

and dave thanks for the imput.......pity your version isn't accurate.
i must say you seem to think you are an authority on competence.
how do you rate your competence as a dos then....no doubt better
than your peers do.

beefer · Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: java

i'm glad that someone (guruengerish) took the time to post a constructive comment/ opinion. now, all i am waiting for is magpie to back up his comments/ slander. i would also like to know why it took him/ her ( sorry, i thought you were paps) sooo long to post this " warning" that they thought was so necessary......i'd really like to hear some details about the "snake"-like activities you encountered.

Dave Nesbit · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 16

Maggie, I know who you are and why you were sacked. Your inability to put capital letters into sentences was one of the reasons! Would you like me to post my full evaluation of the observation I did on one of your classes so all can see?

As Beefy has pointed out, you are yet to enlighten the board with anything whatsoever to back up your original bout of squealing. Can�t back your stuff up, eh?

As for my being an authority on competence, well I sorted the wheat from the chaff in your case, didn�t I?