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gicor
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 Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Tough Choice! |
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I am planning to do my CELTA at IH Wroclaw in Feb. next year, but I have just found out it may clash with a very old friend's stag weekend. 
I have looked up the Krakow courses and if need be I could go there instead. The Wroclaw website on the other hand does not seem to have been updated for a very long time and I cannot find the exact dates of the CELTA courses. Anyone who can help will get a beer when I hunt them down!
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Alex Shulgin
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I don't think that the IH in Wroclaw run CELTA courses at that time of year. As far as I know they only run courses in the summer. But you could always ask them Tel/Fax: (+48 71) 3723 698 or 7817 293
e-mail:[email protected]
Why are you doing your CELTA in February? That's probably the worst time of year to train. You'll finish and then work for three month before the great summer work drought. |
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svenhassel
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what ever you do don't bring the stag party to krakow.
they hate staggers here, i saw a bunch of guys being hung, drawn and quartered just last weekend.
have you considered calling ih in krakow?
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YakTamer
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| svenhassel wrote: |
what ever you do don't bring the stag party to krakow.
they hate staggers here, i saw a bunch of guys being hung, drawn and quartered just last weekend.
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Cool. I hope they start doing that in Warsaw also. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| YakTamer wrote: |
| svenhassel wrote: |
what ever you do don't bring the stag party to krakow.
they hate staggers here, i saw a bunch of guys being hung, drawn and quartered just last weekend.
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Cool. I hope they start doing that in Warsaw also. |
Some places in Warsaw are actually banning stag groups now. About time too.
I'll never understand it: Poland has perfectly good drunk tanks to lock these idiots up in for 24 hours. Why are they not being used? |
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gicor
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Alex Shulgin wrote: |
I don't think that the IH in Wroclaw run CELTA courses at that time of year. As far as I know they only run courses in the summer. But you could always ask them Tel/Fax: (+48 71) 3723 698 or 7817 293
e-mail:[email protected]
Why are you doing your CELTA in February? That's probably the worst time of year to train. You'll finish and then work for three month before the great summer work drought. |
I am not planning to start work before September, I want a few months off with my family. I just want to do the course early so that if I have any problems (like failing) it will give me plenty of time to retake it or consider other options. I have looked at IH Krakow and they run courses all year, but as I plan to live in or around Zielona Gora Wroclaw is much more appealing. Their website has no up to date info and the latest course they advertise at the moment finishes this week. |
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YakTamer
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| Alex Shulgin wrote: |
Some places in Warsaw are actually banning stag groups now. About time too.
I'll never understand it: Poland has perfectly good drunk tanks to lock these idiots up in for 24 hours. Why are they not being used? |
The Hostel I'm staying at might think twice before taking another stag do. 20 Scots stayed for three days and pretty much terrorised everyone there. By the third day they were throwing bottles out of the kitchen onto the courtyard below (the grounds are shared with a school for young children who regularly play in the courtyard). I'm amazed that the Police were never called and the girls running the hostel were often in tears. These guys would take the p*** out of everyone they met but if you so much as looked at them it would be: "what's your f***ing problem, pal?"
Every meal they ate was from the KFC round the corner.
The worst is the tour operators who specialise in this bollox. I saw a group in Centrum with "Richard's Stag Tours" T-shirts on. One of the guys was holding a Polish Phrase guide. I could make out two phrases:
1) 10 large beers please
2) Where is the toilet?
That's pretty much all they needed to know. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| YakTamer wrote: |
The Hostel I'm staying at might think twice before taking another stag do.
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Every meal they ate was from the KFC round the corner. |
Would that be Nathan's villa by any chance? Nathan's a good guy. Drop him an email and let him know what happened (just in case the staff didn't tell him). |
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cezarek
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Alex Shulgin wrote: |
Some places in Warsaw are actually banning stag groups now. About time too.
I'll never understand it: Poland has perfectly good drunk tanks to lock these idiots up in for 24 hours. Why are they not being used? |
The reason is unfortunately all too simple. The paperwork involved in arresting a group of foreigners is beyond the ability of most of the Warssaw police. If it's just one person, they can get away from the paperwork problem by not writing anything, just rifling their victim's pockets for cash, drugs etc, then pretending nothing happened. If it's ten people all yelling for a representative from the embassy, it isn't worth their while. |
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YakTamer
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| Alex Shulgin wrote: |
| YakTamer wrote: |
The Hostel I'm staying at might think twice before taking another stag do.
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Every meal they ate was from the KFC round the corner. |
Would that be Nathan's villa by any chance? Nathan's a good guy. Drop him an email and let him know what happened (just in case the staff didn't tell him). |
Got it in one!
I told the manager of the Hostel (and she'd had dozens of complaints) and I believe she's already told him about the issue.
It's a great hostel.. it just wasn't so great for those 3 days! |
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Alex Shulgin
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| cezarek wrote: |
| The paperwork involved in arresting a group of foreigners is beyond the ability of most of the Warssaw police. If it's just one person, they can get away from the paperwork problem by not writing anything, just rifling their victim's pockets for cash, drugs etc, then pretending nothing happened. If it's ten people all yelling for a representative from the embassy, it isn't worth their while. |
I do know five foreigners who have been banged up in the drunk tank but you're right, they were all picked up individually.
Interestingly the Vienna Convention does not give an individual the right to demand consular representation. It gives the individual the right to contact his consulate and for the consulate to send representatives should they see fit. Knowing that the British consulate in Warsaw will not even make a single phone call to help British citizens who are being illegally deprived of the right to leave Poland, I somehow doubt that they will get out of bed at 4am to go and speak to a drunken chav.
Although that said it is far easier for the policeman (and far more fun for them too) to just go and raid a gay bar/club for, er, um, like they need a reason to harass LGBT anyway! |
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YakTamer
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Other than espionage, and PR for the ruling administration, I've always wondered what the purpose of British Embassies or consulates was; it certainly isn't to represent the interests of British subjects. In fact they often conspire with foreign governments against the interests of British people (innumerable examples in Saudi, etc).
My best guess is that they exist to reward select people in elite circles with high-status jobs, pretty much like the function of most of the army/navy top brass places (eg Collingwood). Chinless wonders have to be looked after somehow.
You could probably close all of the embassies without any undue effect on british residents abroad. Mind you, the secret squirrels and FO mandarins would not be so happy. |
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cezarek
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| YakTamer wrote: |
You could probably close all of the embassies without any undue effect on british residents abroad. Mind you, the secret squirrels and FO mandarins would not be so happy. |
You could bleed to death on the pavement in front of the British Embassy and they wouldn't lift a finger to help you. And chinless wonders is a fair description of quite a few people working there. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| YakTamer wrote: |
| You could probably close all of the embassies without any undue effect on british residents abroad. |
That is simply not true! Her Majesty's embassy in Warsaw is the finest place in all of Poland to buy crisps.
Well, it would be if it was actually in Poland anway. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| cezarek wrote: |
| You could bleed to death on the pavement in front of the British Embassy and they wouldn't lift a finger to help you. |
Well of course they wouldn't: your welfare is a consular matter. You'd need to go and bleed to death over on Emili Plater outside the consulate instead.
That said I do kind of like the current British ambassador, always nice to see the very rare breed of diplomat who actually says what he thinks! |
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