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mikesspamlessemail
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: Citizenship? |
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Is there any way other than marrying someone to get citizenship or to stay legally in the country? I know in many Latin America countries if you buy property or put up a certain amount of money this is possible... but I would imagine this is much more difficult since France doesn't have trouble attracting people who want to live there, since it's awesome. Any suggestions? |
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rogan
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 416 Location: at home, in France
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: French citizenship application |
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As far as I know the citizenship process requires 5 years' residence before the application is made.
Theoretically this could be achieved in any of the DOM or TOM. |
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mikesspamlessemail
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: French citizenship application |
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rogan wrote: |
As far as I know the citizenship process requires 5 years' residence before the application is made.
Theoretically this could be achieved in any of the DOM or TOM. |
Thanks for the info- sorry, what is DOM or TOM? How does one live for 5 years in the first place when it's so hard to get a work permit? Sort of like the chicken and the egg... |
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rogan
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 416 Location: at home, in France
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:15 am Post subject: |
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DOM - Departements outre mer
TOM - Territoires outre mes
There's a slight difference in their legal status.
An overseas Departement has exactly the same legal status as any mainland Departement (local administrative unit, like a County in the UK, maybe like a State in the uS) .
Martinique, in the Caribbean is the same as any other mainland French administrative authority - it counts as being the same as (for eg) Provence.
So it's possible to live on an island paradise for 5 years, gain citizenship and then jump on a plane to Paris. |
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Perpetual Traveller
Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 651 Location: In the Kak, Japan
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately the only other way you can really do it is if you have a fair bit of money put away. Then you can invest in a business or come over as a fee paying student. But as rogan said there is a residence requirement, no matter which way you try it.
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mikesspamlessemail
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 22
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Perpetual Traveller wrote: |
Unfortunately the only other way you can really do it is if you have a fair bit of money put away. Then you can invest in a business or come over as a fee paying student. But as rogan said there is a residence requirement, no matter which way you try it.
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Investing in a business- sounds like a possibility. Any recommendations for where to find this? Even if I could just buy in to one of those newsstands in Paris. |
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stillnosheep
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Just phone up the French equivalent of the Home Office/Immigration dept. and ask.
You can however expect that the amount of money you would be required to invest would be considerable (as in millions), even then the process is not automatic. |
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wildchild
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Hello all, I hope all is well and I thank you for entertaining my question, although it doesn't really, directly apply to meself (I'm a married to a French).
So you saying that any old joe who shows that he's been livin with DOMinique or TOMas or whoever for five years is entitled to a french card? If so, what kinda documents they need to show? Just some rental/lease agreements that show 5 years? And that's it? Holy smokes, load up the jalopy, we're a rollin West...or, uh, East that is. I'm just a gonna smush them grapes all over me face! |
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michellem
Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 29
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: it's not quite that easy |
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Hello all, I hope all is well and I thank you for entertaining my question, although it doesn't really, directly apply to meself (I'm a married to a French).
So you saying that any old joe who shows that he's been livin with DOMinique or TOMas or whoever for five years is entitled to a french card? If so, what kinda documents they need to show? Just some rental/lease agreements that show 5 years? And that's it? Holy smokes, load up the jalopy, we're a rollin West...or, uh, East that is. I'm just a gonna smush them grapes all over me face! |
Being married for 5 years makes things a lot easier because once you hit the 5 year anniversary it is probably not a mariage of convenience. Especially if you haven't asked for residency papers.
The first thing you would need to bring to get your Titre de Sejour is a livret de famille issued in the country you wer married in or live in currently. Do not come to france without it!! otherwise it will cost an absolute fortune in time and money to get it here. bring anything, preferably in French, with both names on it dating from as long ago as possible;; rental agreements, insurance, telehone/ gas/ electric health cards. The process to get a titre de s�jour is relatively painless. Bring a good book some food and water and just wait your turn in the local prefecture. A year after you get your titre de sejour, ie residency in france you can apply for citizenship. i have heard that you should go directly to the naturalization guichet at the prefecture and not to believe what is said on the website regarding the doculent needed to apply; there seels to be some discrepancy depending on where to come from.
So it is not as easy as just loading up the car and driving over. |
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