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[japanbound]

I was just wondering what some of you who teach at a university felt was fair pay for teaching part-time. I have an interview with a school in Chengdu and I already living here. The interviewer asked on the phone how much I'd like to get paid. I didn't say anything. I know one instructor at a school nearby that work ft and makes about 65 (she said) an hour.

[tw]

IMO sixty-five RMB an hour is low. But then again maybe that's a standard Sichuan/Chengdu hourly wage. Ask for 100 RMB and try to get 75-80 RMB an hour. In big cities FT's can get paid for as much as 300 RMB an hour. But that's private tutoring and the FT could speak some Chinese.

[sheeba]

My University pay 60 RMB per hour for any extra hours that I do . I do minimal hours anyway which suits me and the fact that I have accommodation and visa are the main reasons for me being here .If I want extra money I'll get work outside the University and have never been offered less than 100 yuan per hour in those cases.

I know people that come and do work at the Uni who don't live here . They seem to negotiate quite well sometimes . I'd try to get the University to cover travel costs as you live off campus and perhaps some kind of accommodation expense that other FT's would get .

[danswayne]

65 an hour is only the wage before apartment, bills, and airline tickets usually. Even here in Changsha I never work for less than 150 an hour for more than 2 students at a time.

[latefordinner]

I'm getting 150 rmb for each 90 minute class above my normal classload. ICBW, but that seems to reflect the going rate for FTs in my city. A rate that seems not to have changed in more than 5 years.

[Steppenwolf]

Few universities pay more than 100 an hour; 150 or higher is possible sometimes in middle-schools or kindies but hardly at an uni!

The original poster should ask for 100 but will have to accept that he will get nothing extra for his airfare; he may try to get them to pay for his transport, though.

It might also be a good idea to require them to pay a monthly salary and to make no deductions for classes cancelled. This will be hard to convey - but it will be an important negotiating point!

[japanbound]

Thanks all, ESPECIALLY Steppenwolf. The uni is really getting a good deal with me -- no visa, support, accomodation allowance, flight reimbursement, etc. It's really not about fairness, but more about supply and demand. If they need me, they'll pay over and above; if they can get someone to do it cheaper, they will. I have a masters and experience, but I wonder how much of an advantage that is in China even at a reputable school. Anyway, I just need the work. I'll shoot for 100 "zmnb"and transportation (company car, driver, wet bar...)

[Drizzt]

It all depends where you are...

In Shanghai I had a part-time job teaching at a private 3-year college that paid me 130 RMB per teaching hour (which was only 40 minutes long). This was the price I asked for, who knows how much higher it could have gone (the college was also in a distant district, making it harder to attract FTs out there).

[no_exit]

Part time teaching at the universities here will net you about 80RMB an hour. This is assuming you're not a contracted teacher, in which case *extra* hours should be 150% of your normal salary (overtime). If it is just no fringes no benefits part time work for a university, then 80 on the low end, 150 on the high end (unless you're in a city where high wages are the norm -- you never see 300RMB an hour for teaching here, hourly rates just about cap out at 150RMB here, tops, but Kunming is on the low end of the salary range in China).

How much would transport cost? If you're going to take a taxi for to a university that is easily reachable by bus, they might not go for that. If the school is really a hike from where you are, then they should expect to pay for your transport.

[YankeeDoodleDandy]

I have just moved to Xian and the overtime pay is 100 RMB. My contract is for 14 hours per week and I am currently teaching 22 fifty minute classes per week. Salary is 5,000 RMB per month. I will receive my extra pay in February. I hope before spring break.

[Hendahu]

Yank,
That one time overtime pay can really eat you up with taxes. See if you can talk them into a monthly deal. You will see more cash.

[YankeeDoodleDandy]

Hendahu, Thanks for the info. I want to take the train to Tibet next year and I will ask my FAO on Monday about getting paid every month, no need for Uncle Mao to get the dragon's share of my money.

[prof]

250/hour.

Minimum 2 hour class.

Or walk.

If you are qualified.