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Mr Gohlam
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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| I can�t understand why people who aren�t happy in Saudi Arabia stay here. I for one am happy I made the move and don�t miss the bars, drunk drivers, women dressed like prostitutes, and men rudely starring my female relatives in the least. I think if people hate Saudi Arabia so much, they should just leave and leave it for Muslims and other people who are happy to teach and live in such a clean environment. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| I am curious about why Mr Gohlam went to live and work in 'Dar Al-Harb', surrounded by unbelievers ? Why did you go to Britain Mr G ? |
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Abba
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Location: UK
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr Gohlam wrote: |
| ...I think if people hate Saudi Arabia so much, they should just leave and leave it for Muslims and other people who are happy to teach and live in such a clean environment. |
Oh Mr G. can you elaborate more on what you mean by clean environment??
Second, So you assume that all the Muslims who are working in SA are happy?? how did you know that? did you do any survey ? what is your evidence in this?
I assure you that, from my own experince and meeting with hundreds of poor muslim worker from differnt nationalities, that the number of muslims who are not happy exeeds very far the numbet of non-moslem who are not happy??
Did you forget the millions of Bangali, Pakistani, and so on, who most of them are ill-treated, and some of them are not paid for 6 months or more, is this happiness for you? |
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Mr Gohlam
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Abba wrote: |
Oh Mr G. can you elaborate more on what you mean by clean environment??
Second, So you assume that all the Muslims who are working in SA are happy?? how did you know that? did you do any survey ? what is your evidence in this?
I assure you that, from my own experince and meeting with hundreds of poor muslim worker from differnt nationalities, that the number of muslims who are not happy exeeds very far the numbet of non-moslem who are not happy??
Did you forget the millions of Bangali, Pakistani, and so on, who most of them are ill-treated, and some of them are not paid for 6 months or more, is this happiness for you? |
A clean environment is a Muslim environment, as I have already explained. And to people who arent happy here, they should simply leave. However, those Pakistani and so forth that you refer to, most of them are Muslim and come here to make Umrah and Haj, and once having done so leave gratified having acheived those goals. |
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james
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Mr. Gohlam,
You are hard to keep up with. You just keep jumping from one thread to another beating the same old drum. You seem to be a one-trick-pony. Don't you have anything to offer this forum, other than malicious diatribes against the United Kingdom and it people.
Really, you are a piece of work. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you were half the Muslim you claim to be you wouldn't have been looking at all those British ladies that you now slander so viciously. How the hell would you have known they all dressed like prostitutes if you weren't looking at them (probably with your tongue hanging out)? Did you forget about that part of the Quran which instructs men to divert their gaze?
You're probably really pissed off because no British woman wanted to have anything to do with you and that's why you so rudely malign them now. Futhermore, I'm sure that the only men that would want to look at your female relatives were men from your own country, not men who are ethnically Anglo Saxon.
Speaking one Muslim to another, I'd like to give you a piece of advice. If you are on drugs, stop taking them at once because you are starting to sound like an idiot. On the other hand, if you are not taking drugs then start at once and chill out because you sound like an idiot. Why don't you keep your ultra-orthodox, prejudice, backward ideas to yourself, or better yet take them back to Tora Bora or whatever it is you come from.
Assalaamu Alaikum Rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
James |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| A clean environment is a Muslim environment, as I have already explained. And to people who arent happy here, they should simply leave. However, those Pakistani and so forth that you refer to, most of them are Muslim and come here to make Umrah and Haj, and once having done so leave gratified having acheived those goals. |
I think Mr. Gholam, we are going to be endlessly entertained at your expense.
All the Bangladeshis and Pakistanis that hang around the airports a couple of weeks after the end of Haj are really not trying to hustle some money, or nick your bags, but merely wish to relieve their fellow men of the burden of carrying them as a result of the spiritual gratification they have acheived. |
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Jester18
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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Location: Middle East
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Mr Golham-
How can you say that clean living is here in Saudi or that Muslims lead
a clean life? There are hypocrites in every faith or belief system.
What about all those Saudis getting drunk and trolling for whores over in Bahrain. Is that clean living? And to say just leave if you don't like it---that is a shortcut to thinking. You would probably be screaming bloody murder if we told a muslim to just leave the UK, Canada or anywhere else in the world if they didn't like it. What is with Islam that doesn't allow for a little criticsm now and then. At least we don't blow things up (that's just Bush) when we disagree or when people criticize our lifestyle or our countries. Sure, people suffer everywhere---there are injustices everywhere---but just saying "get out" doesn't solve anyhting.
THink about it----we are not all zillionaires----we sometimes need to go to places to make a living---just like those who leave the Middle East to go to school or work in western countries. Should we tell them to just leave if they don't like it and just be arrogant and say leave or countries to we the infidels----you'd call us racist if we did that! Open your mind a bit and offer plausible sollutions instead of stupid ones!!!!!!! |
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soitsenglishweteach
Joined: 11 Jul 2005
Posts: 18
Location: ksa
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Stephen Jones wrote: |
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| A clean environment is a Muslim environment, as I have already explained. And to people who arent happy here, they should simply leave. However, those Pakistani and so forth that you refer to, most of them are Muslim and come here to make Umrah and Haj, and once having done so leave gratified having acheived those goals. |
I think Mr. Gholam, we are going to be endlessly entertained at your expense.
All the Bangladeshis and Pakistanis that hang around the airports a couple of weeks after the end of Haj are really not trying to hustle some money, or nick your bags, but merely wish to relieve their fellow men of the burden of carrying them as a result of the spiritual gratification they have acheived. |
I am sorry but I loved the way that stephen pictures all teh Bangladeshi and pakis as theives.
Couldn't they just be victims of the incompetance that runs through King abdul Aziz Airport
HMMMM mister tolerant raised in the U.K.
where is your fairer veiw of people. this sterotyping is getting beyond a joke. I however agree though that most crimes is a result here in KSa of overstayers and fake muslims comming on Umrah visa and staying. Thats teh problem when you have a wonderfull country like KSA thats letting millions in to do their basic religious dutiues whilst those "muslims " come and take advantage.
Why is it that we bash KSa who opens the door trustingly to these people every year and then gets slapped in the mouth by them.
They should look at Europe, they're thinking of keeping them out of Europe than letting them in - I just hope to Allah that this will include those fake brits from South Africa and austrailan and new zealand pretenders to the crown. There are enough there already in london
LOL at james who claims to be muslim, your attacks on my brother gholam who appears to have some dificulty in expressing his joy at being here are unbelievable.
You are apparently muslim but not muslim enough to believe that Asian women are attractive to anglo saxon men
Really, then why do you have Asain babe and the like plasterd top shelf in all newsagents?
once again we see another thread bite the dust!!
I want more of the 300 club stories. These people make me laugh - they are either so tight that they can't spend anything decent or they are so far down the road of excess that they are now trying in their twighlight years to get something together before they are wheeeled into the "oh I wet myself again" nursing home.
I mean who in their right minds can live on 2000 here in saudi let alone 300. i have not exactly an amasing social life but i have enough to do and it costs. 2000 a month on teh phone is usual and then there is all teh trips meals shopping.
what are you living on oh 300 club memebers
potted dog snadwiches and milk??
Yes i should have diverted my gaze but when I looked down their were all these lovely womens calfs so i looked up and lo and behold all the mags were of those women anglo saxons don't find interesting. |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| 2000 a month on the phone ? |
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Mr Gohlam
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| james wrote: |
Dear Mr. Gohlam,
You are hard to keep up with. You just keep jumping from one thread to another beating the same old drum. You seem to be a one-trick-pony. Don't you have anything to offer this forum, other than malicious diatribes against the United Kingdom and it people.
Really, you are a piece of work. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you were half the Muslim you claim to be you wouldn't have been looking at all those British ladies that you now slander so viciously. How the hell would you have known they all dressed like prostitutes if you weren't looking at them (probably with your tongue hanging out)? Did you forget about that part of the Quran which instructs men to divert their gaze?
You're probably really pissed off because no British woman wanted to have anything to do with you and that's why you so rudely malign them now. Futhermore, I'm sure that the only men that would want to look at your female relatives were men from your own country, not men who are ethnically Anglo Saxon.
Speaking one Muslim to another, I'd like to give you a piece of advice. If you are on drugs, stop taking them at once because you are starting to sound like an idiot. On the other hand, if you are not taking drugs then start at once and chill out because you sound like an idiot. Why don't you keep your ultra-orthodox, prejudice, backward ideas to yourself, or better yet take them back to Tora Bora or whatever it is you come from.
Assalaamu Alaikum Rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
James |
Why are you attacking me brother? What did I do to offend you? Did I follow your wife all the way home from the tube station and call her names because I dont understand hijab and dressing modestly? Did I bother your children in school and call their father a terrorist?
No matter what you people say, KSA is better for Muslims, than non Muslims, and it is safer, cleaner, and less decadant than the UK, where I have resided since birth. I pray this country will never change. I will not listen to any more of this nonsense and Muslim bashing, especially by so called Muslims.
Peace to you, Gohlam |
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soitsenglishweteach
Joined: 11 Jul 2005
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Location: ksa
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| 2000 a month on the phone ? |
yeah i know, sky high but thats what happens when you have a hareem to run and a whole load of overseas friends. i can't be bothered with teh internet phonecalling, waste of time in my mind. Life keeps moving and so do I thats why the mobiles easier but darn expensive. I am waiting till either Voip gets better here or i lose some of teh responsibilities that i have to keep people happy.
oh well I guess that 2000 is just a drop in the ocean to some who have earnt a great deal more in a week teaching our kids and young adults the glorious language of business.
hey by the way scot47 how do people call 2000 a month as expenses living??
I am so sure that if you were to have a decent life here you would spend that merely on eating out. Please enlighten me and my troubled bank manager on how to get the best out of my 14k a month cos i am stumped  |
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