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dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

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Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Common practice in KSA. A TCN runs a business and pays a Saudi 'sponsor' a fixed sum monthly to pretend to be the owner.

Cleopatra · Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject:

The_Prodiigy · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 252

WARDENS' NOTICE March 2006, British Consul

My last wardens notice of 22nd May 2006 warned of a possible plan to attack Westerners pursuing leisure activities in the desert outside Riyadh. Our revised assessment is that there is nothing to suggest a specific plan. The FCO's travel advice has therefore been changed to reflect this. The new wording is;

'There is a continuing high threat of terrorism in Saudi Arabia. We continue to believe that terrorists are planning further attacks in Saudi Arabia, including against Westerners and places associated with Westerners. They may consider Westerners pursuing leisure activities in the desert as a possible target. We believe aviation interests remain a possible terrorist target.'

Brian Hefford
HM Consul

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To try and convince people KSA is somehow, anyhow more liberal than UAE is a preposterous, ridiculous task to take on.

Restriction of freedom of expressions in all kinds of social aspects, not merely religion. Detrimental to lifestyle and teaching methods.

Restriction of movement out of the country.

KSA has a cast-iron reputation as a bizarre place to live - rightly so.

Tolerate The Desert by all means. Don't try and dress it up as something else.

Cleopatra · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject:

Using outdated British Embassy Warden's Notices as part of your argument? Prodigy has reached a new low!

Mohammad · Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 79

Yes, it is up to us; however, your challenge is nothing to do with teaching English in KSA. You may discuss as much as you like by sending him a PM, as he requested previously.

(MOD edit - off topic posts of a number of posters have been removed)

Queen of Sheba · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397

I understand your frustration Abba. You have lived with this religion and with ME culture all your life, but there are some arrogant reverted converts who decide they are Imams and Scholars because they memorize verse and grammar for the last couple of years. Those of us who know better, because of our cultural and religious education and experience, have to turn the other cheek. Ignore their IL-logic before you lose your mind. ILL is the focus here. They memorize all day long, but they dont get anything out of it in the end, not unlike some students actually! Wink

Gordon Bennett · Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Jeddah/London

I quote

"Indeed, I lived and worked in the most difficult part of SA, which is in the south, where customs and tribe tradition are very strict than in Riyad or Jeddah. I think you have a mis-understanding of the issue of MAHRAM . The regulation (and not custom) of MAHRAM is mainly applied to muslim foreign women when they come to SA for work or visit, and of course the same rules are not applied for a non-muslim woman (not all). Do you know that, my friend applied for a visit visa for his mother whose age is more than 70 yrs old, the SA immigration authorities in Jeddah asked him that she should be accompanied by a relative or close friend. "

This is simply out of hand. this has nothing to do with
How do you survive in KSa?

I mean if someone was to elaborate on teh 300 or 500 clubs antics or to explain how to deal with a difficult kafeel or what to do when all the forms are in Arabic then I could understand.

By far and away the worst offenders here are the people who are playing back and forth with abba. I also noticed that he blows his own trumpet a bit and he is always talking about the religion of Islam as though he was the "Mufti" himself.

Cleo perhaps you would explain how you find it okay to do nothing but attack the governments you work under. It is amazing to me that you get away with this!!

Its an 'English come saudi living board 'not the socialist workers party rag !!

By the way cleo your picking up of Abbas mistakes are a bit short. Just look at the above passage its quiet clear that he went and taught in the mountains around Jizan where no one would notice the difference.

It also appears to me that many people here are on the wrong forum.
Where are 'The Mods'?
Can we please get either a "lets have a slanging match about KSA" thread or can we at least get an 'off topic' board like the Chinese!!!

Human behaviour sang Bjork
how true!

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

If you have been paying attention, you would have noticed that many posts have been 'disappeared'... very many in fact. There have been some posters banned I understand.

So why are you putting fuel on the fire or do you want to see the problems continue? The best way to end the debates and slanging matches is for no one to bait them...

VS

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

With all respect between threads locked and posts disappearing, this forum is becoming impossible.

Possibly the mods could poll the regular posters to see if we would not prefer the flaming to having the whole structure messed up?

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

The posters don't set the rules. Those that don't like the process can always choose to leave or not read or not post. IMHO the board becomes difficult when you have posters who obviously have some agenda or enjoy causing agruments and dissension.

I never expect discussion boards to be democracies... thus I am rarely disappointed. Laughing

I'd say the MODS do the best they can with the material they have to work with... and lately that has been an excess of garbage. Personally I prefer to have every flamer deleted.

And we know what happens with threads that discuss board procedures...

VS