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Corruption in Poland
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freudling1000



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexi:

I sense a threat. I will gladly meet you anywhere. Name the time and place.

As for your snippets, because you found a few articles on the internet it must be true! Let's generalize based on your experiences and two articles!

You missed a few good ones on the topic:

Our water is like rat poison:

http://www.geocities.com/Northstarzone/FLUORIDE.html

Doctor thinks fouride in water is posion:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/Alternative_Health/17_02%20HS%20Fluoride%20Is%20Poison,%20Sa.htm

Many other articles too. But then there is me, in the area I was living in Canada, where the water was perfect. No run offs, no acid rain, no pollution from the ground or air... The same water my parents have been drinking all their lives and they are in perfect health, as is everyone else around there.

Go get bluegreenyellow in the face with your next reply: it shows how dogmatically idiotic you are Alexi.
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Grrrmachine



Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Posts: 265
Location: Warsaw, Poland

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freudling, Alex likes to back what he says up with accredited sources. You can question these sources, as is your right, but on this board there really isn't any excuse for raising insults or threats, as you have done (and started, as everyone else has noticed.)

Yes, there are hundreds of UK vs US jokes and comments available, but the rest of us on here seem to be mature enough not to have brought them up in an accusative manner. It's also rather petty to twist someone's name so that you can assume a more patronising air. Please, a slightly more mature attitude is needed here.
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Alex Shulgin



Joined: 20 Jul 2003
Posts: 553

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freudling1000 wrote:
Alexi:

I sense a threat. I will gladly meet you anywhere. Name the time and place.

A threat? Somebody says that they must meet you and you sense a threat? Now that really is bizarre!


freudling1000 wrote:
As for your snippets, because you found a few articles on the internet it must be true! Let's generalize based on your experiences and two articles!


Well one of those links is from USA Today and so is probably crap but the other is from the US National Research Council and a press release from a study sponsored by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Here are the people who wrote the report:
Committee on Fluoride in Drinking Water

John Doull, M.D., Ph.D. (chair)
Professor Emeritus of Pharmacology and Toxicology
University of Kansas Medical Center
Kansas City

Kim Boekelheide, M.D., Ph.D.
Professor
Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Brown University
Providence, R.I.

Barbara G. Farishian, D.D.S.
Dentist
Washington, D.C.

Robert L. Isaacson, Ph.D.
Distinguished Professor
Department of Psychology
State University of New York
Binghamton

Judith B. Klotz, Dr.P.H.
Adjunct Associate Professor
Department of Epidemiology
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey
Piscataway

Jayanth V. Kumar, D.D.S., M.P.H.
Director
Oral Health Surveillance and Research Unit
Bureau of Dental Health
New York State Department of Health
Albany

Hardy Limeback, D.D.S., Ph.D.
Associate Professor and Head of Preventive Dentistry
University of Toronto
Toronto

Charles Poole, M.P.H., Sc.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Epidemiology
School of Public Health
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill

J. Edward Puzas, Ph.D.
Donald and Mary Clark Professor of Orthopaedics
School of Medicine and Dentistry
University of Rochester
Rochester, N.Y.

Nu-May Ruby Reed, Ph.D.
Staff Toxicologist
Department of Pesticide Regulation
California Environmental Protection Agency
Sacramento

Kathleen M. Thiessen, Ph.D.
Senior Scientist
Center for Risk Analysis
SENES Oak Ridge Inc.
Oak Ridge, Tenn.

Thomas F. Webster, D.Sc.
Assistant Professor
Department of Environmental Health
Boston University School of Public Health
Boston


Do let us know why we should believe what you say and not what those people say.
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gregoryfromcali



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 1207
Location: People's Republic of Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh...?

Are we still talking about ticket inspectors?
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svenhassel



Joined: 04 Aug 2006
Posts: 188
Location: Europe

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it seems not,

i get the impression we are merely being provoked into responding to various outrageously narrowminded generalisations.

the thread's theme should be everything and everyone outside of north america backward.

poland is full of corruption and so, backward,

british people have bad teeth therefore UK dental hygene is obviously backward.

freudling do you have anything postive to say about countries outside of north america?

i assume you just like to whinge but this thread started off interestingly as a discussion about corruption, which is a subject that affects people who live and work here like us, the idea of this forum is to allow teaching professionals to discuss topics which affect us all. the key word here is discuss, you are treating it as a vehicle for you to make broad sweeping statements and then insult anyone who disagrees with you or has disagreed with you on other topics.

and while i'm at it

back to the origins of blue teeth

"blue blood + bad teeth = blue teeth"?

a good play on words? am i missing something here? that can't be the origins

have any other north americans heard of "blue teeth" in reference to british teeth? i thought i knew american english but then i'm not american.
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joshsweigart



Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 66

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: teeth Reply with quote

I've only heard of "Blue tooth" wireless technology.

Maybe the focus of the original comment wasn't necessarily on the specific color of the teeth but on discoloration of teeth. In this case the color blue may have been arbitrarily chosen.

I'm not a dentist Smile
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freudling1000



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex:

I don't live in the USA, never have. Therefore, I don't drink their water.

But if you want to argue, here is a snippet from the Flouride Information Network:

"The evidence supporting the safety, efficacy, and cost-effectiveness of fluoridation of community water supplies comes from multiple sources covering 50 years of legitimate research published in peer reviewed journals, including both long term studies on large populations, recent confirmatory studies, and comprehensive literature reviews."

From the Academy of General Dentistry in the US:

"The Environmental Protection Agency has determined that the accepted "optimal" range of fluoride in water lies between 0.7 and 1.2 parts per million (ppm) or mg per liter. The limit allowed by the EPA in public water is 4 ppm. Backed by results from more than 140 documented studies undertaken in 20 different countries over the past several decades, fluoridated water adhering to these standards has been scientifically established as safe for drinking."

So what does this show? There are some who say good, some bad. All I know is that our teeth look great and I know of nobody who has suffered health problems from flouride in water.
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joshsweigart



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: beautiful smile Reply with quote

I will vouch for Freud's beautiful smile. Not only are his teeth straight but they are pearly white Smile

I'm from the U.S. and I have decent teeth (only a slight overbite) but I grew up on a farm where we had and still do have well water. My mother also specifically refused the weekly fluoride treatments which were available at my elementary school. Perhaps it was because she thought the fluoride unhealthy or unnecessary.
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