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luckbox
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 Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: North Korea nuclear test |
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Apparently this morning (Monday) at about 10:30, North Korea made good on its threat to conduct a nuclear test. I realize this may not be as important as grocery store point cards, but nonetheless, feel free to discuss as the story unfolds.
Here's the lastest at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: Re: North Korea nuclear test |
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| luckbox wrote: |
Apparently this morning (Monday) at about 10:30, North Korea made good on its threat to conduct a nuclear test. I realize this may not be as important as grocery store point cards, but nonetheless, feel free to discuss as the story unfolds.
Here's the lastest at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ |
The two things are not entirely unconnected. North Korean armsdealers are planning to bring out a points card which allows you a free uranium warhead for every five that you buy. You can't say that's not a bargain luckbox. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: Re: North Korea nuclear test |
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| furiousmilksheikali wrote: |
| luckbox wrote: |
Apparently this morning (Monday) at about 10:30, North Korea made good on its threat to conduct a nuclear test. I realize this may not be as important as grocery store point cards, but nonetheless, feel free to discuss as the story unfolds.
Here's the lastest at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ |
The two things are not entirely unconnected. North Korean armsdealers are planning to bring out a points card which allows you a free uranium warhead for every five that you buy. You can't say that's not a bargain luckbox. |
LOL |
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luckbox
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: Re: North Korea nuclear test |
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| furiousmilksheikali wrote: |
| luckbox wrote: |
Apparently this morning (Monday) at about 10:30, North Korea made good on its threat to conduct a nuclear test. I realize this may not be as important as grocery store point cards, but nonetheless, feel free to discuss as the story unfolds.
Here's the lastest at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ |
The two things are not entirely unconnected. North Korean armsdealers are planning to bring out a points card which allows you a free uranium warhead for every five that you buy. You can't say that's not a bargain luckbox. |
I can't fathom this, but I'm in the awkward position of having the agree with canuck... this one made me laugh out loud. Bravo, furiousschmilkensheikalilee (or whatever your name is)!  |
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luckyloser700
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: Re: North Korea nuclear test |
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| furiousmilksheikali wrote: |
| luckbox wrote: |
Apparently this morning (Monday) at about 10:30, North Korea made good on its threat to conduct a nuclear test. I realize this may not be as important as grocery store point cards, but nonetheless, feel free to discuss as the story unfolds.
Here's the lastest at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ |
The two things are not entirely unconnected. North Korean armsdealers are planning to bring out a points card which allows you a free uranium warhead for every five that you buy. You can't say that's not a bargain luckbox. |
Yeah, but you'll have to come up with the payload delivery vessel yourself if your target is anywhere outside your local city or county limits.
The only thing more unreliable than a N. Korean rocket is a S. Korean Hyundai. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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canuck
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About the only interesting information available in that thread was this:
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luckyloser700
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As usual, Japanese TV stations are continuing to run the usual cooking shows (you know, the ones that point out important things like how you should cut back on miso 1% and add a few extra granules of soup dashi to recognize the powerful difference in flavors between Northern Fukushima-ken and Southern Fukushim-ken miso ramen) and Japanese B-list celebrity variety shows.
I can't wait for the next televised political forum where Terry Ito (you know, the old guy with the wandering eye and the trendy clothes) and Razor Ramon (Hard gay) lead opposing sides in a debate over this issue. Of course, Dave Spector will be the voice of reason. |
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Apsara
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Well, now that it's news time, it's been nothing but the nuclear test on NHK for the last two hours... |
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luckyloser700
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| That's good to hear |
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White_Elephant
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: North Korea nuclear test |
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| luckyloser700 wrote: |
The only thing more unreliable than a N. Korean rocket is a S. Korean Hyundai. |
yeah and we wont even talk about a Kia 
On a serious note, I've got a BAD feeling about this whole N. Korean Nuclear deal. Seems to me the international community is now forced to make good on their threats. What will they do? My guess is there will be sanctions and troops deployed which will further infuriate the crazed KJI. He's cut off and needs funds badly. What are his options? Sell his nukes, scuds etc. to Iran and Syria like he's been doing? Let's say he gets the label of an "evil doer" (terrorist) and we all know what happens next. It looks like a domino effect is going to lead to serious action. Meanwhile, the stock markets are going to be in serious trouble all over this entire region.
P.s. I sometimes get these BAD feelings about world events and then the worst happens and sooner than I expected. One sign I'm lookin out for is the US Navy battleships. If those get deployed over here in significant numbers, there WILL be a war. First word of those being deployed and I am so out of this region. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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Yes, I've heard about the correlation between Navy vessels being deployed and war being imminent. Personally, I can't see what North Korea could do to affect Japan directly. They have all means of pounding Seoul into the dust with the artillery they have lined up and I truly hope that the regime there is rational enough to withhold from that. Unfortunately, it is likely that rationality is not something that can be assumed in Kim Jong-il's decaying regime.
From here on in it looks like the options are to either impose sanctions, and therefore force N. Korea further into isolation and desperation, or for regional powers to come to the negotiating table, which would be undesirable to a number of players in that they would feel coerced into doing so, or take military action, with the almost certain deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, or to allow N.Korea to be part of the nuclear club.
I don't see a good option here at all. |
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luckyloser700
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: North Korea nuclear test |
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| White_Elephant wrote: |
| there will be sanctions and troops deployed which will further infuriate the crazed KJI. He's cut off and needs funds badly. What are his options? Sell his nukes, scuds etc. to Iran and Syria like he's been doing? |
There have been nuclear weapons on the black market for years, especially since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Terrorists have been reported as likely possessing these weapons. KJI's selling of WMD's to countries like Iran isn't likely to change the situation much. It's all about production capabilities. Right now, Iran wants to produce nuclear energy and probably an arsenal as well. A few small to medium-sized bombs are probably already in someone's possession there. Uranium isn't easy to get so N. Korea's production capabilities are limited. Lots of uranium used these days comes from existing supplies. Many mines have shut down over the years because of a less-than-anticipated demand, but most are probably still owned and protected by the same companies that purchased them years ago.
It's true that N. Korea can build a few nasty bombs, but we don't know how sucessful she can be in delivering the nuclear payloads based on what we've seen previously.
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| P.s. I sometimes get these BAD feelings about world events and then the worst happens and sooner than I expected. One sign I'm lookin out for is the US Navy battleships. If those get deployed over here in significant numbers, there WILL be a war. First word of those being deployed and I am so out of this region. |
The U.S. won't come into East Asia and start kicking ass without the support of the other big East Asian countries. China is thriving now and doesn't want to see things f#$ked up in Asia by that fat little whiner anymore than the U.S. or Japan does. If things start looking really bad, China will give her blessing (and maybe her support) and there'll be some fireworks in the region. Who knows? When the smoke clears, DPRK may be absorbed back into the mother country.
Anyway, it's not worth worrying about too much at this point. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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By the way, we should remember that this was a relatively small bomb. It was about half the size of the Hiroshima bomb and North Korea are still without an effective delivery system.
Keep calm everyone. |
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White_Elephant
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="furiousmilksheikali"]Personally, I can't see what North Korea could do to affect Japan directly. [quote]
KJI has threatened to bomb Japan and target US military bases there. There's no doubt that he has the missles capable of doing damage even if they aren't nuclear. So lets say he decides to aim first at Japan? Then what? Even if they don't do considerable damage, it will be enough to start a war and you'll likely see a dramatic and immediate hit to the Japanese stock market - not to mention what it will do to the value of the Yen. I say chances are greater that N. Korea will aim for Japan long before he'll aim at Seoul. |
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