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HUBEI on an L Visa

 
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wailing_imam



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Malaya

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: HUBEI on an L Visa Reply with quote

Hi Folks.

I am in Hubei. I have been here for one week and am holding an L visa. I am teaching English here. I am working for an overseas company, who promised that their Chinese counterparts would get my working permit sorted out once I got here. I even had to sign a form promising to have a medical check done once in China. Now I am in China, they have said that I have to work on an L visa for the duration of my six month contract. This would involve going to Hong Kong every sixty days. What a pain in the Gary.

Here are the questions:

1) Is it possible to convert an L visa into a residence visa in Hubei, or does one have to be outside the country to do this?

2) Is it possible to convert an L visa into an F visa (90 or 180 days) in Hubei?

3) Is it possible to extend one's L visa by a month at PSB offices in Hubei?

4) There aren't an awful lot of foreign faces in this city. What would be the repercussions for getting caught working on an L visa, as I realise it is the teacher's responsibility in the eyes of the law to have the correct visa?

5) After how long inside the province of Hubei is a foreigner supposed to go an register at the PSB office?

6) I want to be transferred to Shandong. Are the regulations any different there?

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Millerlong



Joined: 21 May 2003
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Location: Shanghai, China

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it just be better to get a 6 month or 1 year business VISA while in Hong Kong? Or you just get a company registered in China to give you a letter (stamped) saying that they need you in China for some business consulting for 3 months - no need to leave China at all, just take the form down to the local PSB and get your L changed into a 3 month F and you can repeat this for a total period up to 1 year.

Another way would be to use a visa agency in Shanghai to give you a 3, 6, or 12 month business visa. All is possible and there is no need to go to Hong Kong.

You are able to extend your tourist visa for 1 month but only once. After that you will need to follow the information above.

Chinese immigration laws are very smooth!
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wailing_imam



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply.

As far as I am aware, each province has slightly different immigration regualtions. Are the regulations in Hubei as straightforward as the laws that you mention (presumably those of Shanghai)?

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Millerlong



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you try it out? Take a letter with a stamp from a registered company and see how you go down at your local PSB. Otherwise take a trip to Shanghai to get a 3 months business VISA or to Hong Kong to get a 1 year business visa. All too easy!!!
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tw



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: HUBEI on an L Visa Reply with quote

wailing_imam wrote:
3) Is it possible to extend one's L visa by a month at PSB offices in Hubei?

4) There aren't an awful lot of foreign faces in this city. What would be the repercussions for getting caught working on an L visa, as I realise it is the teacher's responsibility in the eyes of the law to have the correct visa?


You CAN extend your L visa in China. Just go to the local PSB with a letter in hand that gives your reason for wishing to stay in China longer. Something to the effect that you find China interesting and fascinating, that you love the people and the culture and wish to learn more about it would suffice. But, you should NOT even think about extending your L visa and teach on a L visa for six months. You just don't want to take the chance of getting caught, fined, possibly deported as well. China is really cracking down on illegal FT's. If I were you, I'd pull a runner since it is obvious the school is not legally allowed to hire FT's.

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5) After how long inside the province of Hubei is a foreigner supposed to go an register at the PSB office?


Shocked You MUST be registered with the local PSB within 24 hours of arriving at the place you are staying at, or you CAN get into SERIOUS trouble.
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andrew_gz



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TW do you have a reference/source for this?
"China is really cracking down on illegal FT's."
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tw



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew_gz wrote:
TW do you have a reference/source for this?
"China is really cracking down on illegal FT's."


I am very sure I read about it on this forum. Actually, I guess I should have worded it a bit more precise and say that China HAS ALWAYS BEEN cracking down on FT's working with a L visa.
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wailing_imam



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the school I am working in has two foregn teachers already, but they are directly employed by the school, wheras I am not paid any salary or benefits from the school in China. They have given me an apartment and a helper to do my copies / scream at students when they are late, but my salary comes from overseas and is paid into an overseas bank account. However, the Chinese are taking a risk by having me living on their premises and teaching their students on an L visa.

You are quite right, teaching on a series of L visas is a daft idea, and one that I will point out to my employer.
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