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luckbox
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 Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: Recruitment Consultant: earn 30m Yen per year!! |
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You've seen the same ads, Tokyo-based corporate head-hunting firms promising 10's of millions in yen per year in combined salary/commission. So what's the catch? Especially for the ones that guarantee a lofty salary before commmission? Sure, I'd love to advance beyond my 2.8m/year teacher salary.
Any of you actually done this sort of work before? Share your experience, please. |
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Like a Rolling Stone
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Didn't Keith Allan do something like that?  |
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bornslippy1981
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| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Like a Rolling Stone wrote: |
| Didn't Keith Allan do something like that? |
Yeah, but the difference is he was teaching business English courses.
As was the legendary Keith's situation, I think most of these companies lure you in with the promises of big money, but you find out after a day or two that it's not true. I think in Keith's case they withdrew their offer of 90,000 Yen/hour the next day. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| bornslippy1981 wrote: |
| Like a Rolling Stone wrote: |
| Didn't Keith Allan do something like that? |
Yeah, but the difference is he was teaching business English courses.
As was the legendary Keith's situation, I think most of these companies lure you in with the promises of big money, but you find out after a day or two that it's not true. I think in Keith's case they withdrew their offer of 90,000 Yen/hour the next day. |
Wasn't it 86,000 an hour? LOL |
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kdynamic
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| Most headhunters I know a) work ridiculous hours and never get to enjoy the money they make and b) slowly decay morally as they sell their souls and become assholes. |
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G Cthulhu
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| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Recruitment Consultant: earn 30m Yen per year!! |
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| luckbox wrote: |
So what's the catch? Especially for the ones that guarantee a lofty salary before commmission? Sure, I'd love to advance beyond my 2.8m/year teacher salary.
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Without experience? No one will actually pay that to a newbie with little/no experience in country or in the field.
Facts on headhunters: the 'salary' is often actually a "draw". This means it's an advance against future commissions - you don't make the commissions then you're in big trouble. Commissions can often take up to six months to come back to you. You have to work stupidly long hours to make the contacts and get the combinations of warm bodies and companies willing to use you - unless you get (amazingly) lucky. You have to get rid of any sense of ethics or decency if you want to compete and are starting at the bottom for the simple reason that that's _exactly_ what everyone else feeding at the bottom is doing.
I wouldn't touch unretained (ie. commission) recruiting jobs or the people doing them with a heavily disinfected barge pole. Good recruiting is a complex and demanding job. Good recruiters don't advertise for anyone and everyone, no experience necessary.
All IMO & YMMV. |
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luckbox
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| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Recruitment Consultant: earn 30m Yen per year!! |
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| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| luckbox wrote: |
So what's the catch? Especially for the ones that guarantee a lofty salary before commmission? Sure, I'd love to advance beyond my 2.8m/year teacher salary.
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Without experience? No one will actually pay that to a newbie with little/no experience in country or in the field.
Facts on headhunters: the 'salary' is often actually a "draw". This means it's an advance against future commissions - you don't make the commissions then you're in big trouble. Commissions can often take up to six months to come back to you. You have to work stupidly long hours to make the contacts and get the combinations of warm bodies and companies willing to use you - unless you get (amazingly) lucky. You have to get rid of any sense of ethics or decency if you want to compete and are starting at the bottom for the simple reason that that's _exactly_ what everyone else feeding at the bottom is doing.
I wouldn't touch unretained (ie. commission) recruiting jobs or the people doing them with a heavily disinfected barge pole. Good recruiting is a complex and demanding job. Good recruiters don't advertise for anyone and everyone, no experience necessary.
All IMO & YMMV. |
Thanks, this is pretty much what I suspected. I think these ads fall into the "If it sounds too good, ..." category.
By the way, who the hell is Allen Kieth? |
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alexrocks
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| Keith W Alan was absolutely hilarious!!! Oh why did he have to delete all his posts? I didn't get to read them all.... |
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