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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I do this in some of my classes now. For example, we have a current topics class that integrates some other skill areas with topics like;
Thai Coup
Koizumi retires from politics
Japanese national high school baseball tourney
Hypoallergenic cats
Saddam's trial
Horie's trial
Genocide in Sudan |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| gaijinalways wrote: |
I do this in some of my classes now. For example, we have a current topics class that integrates some other skill areas with topics like;
Thai Coup
Koizumi retires from politics
Japanese national high school baseball tourney
Hypoallergenic cats
Saddam's trial
Horie's trial
Genocide in Sudan |
Whoah! Are these University students? This looks like the kind of thing I used to do when I first started teaching and really had no idea what to do in the classroom. The problem with doing topics such as these is that they often require a lot of background knowledge to say anything meaningful about them. I sometimes used to give newspaper articles to students on themes like this and found that the students just shrugged or looked blank.
Of course, you can organize your syllabus so that it gradually builds up to a discussion of one of these themes but it seems like it would require alot of specialised vocabulary which wouldn't be useful in other contexts.
But I would be interested to know how you go about using these current topics themes. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 668 Location: performing in a classroom near you!
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, furious.
It seems to me that those topics are good for a class dicussion, but there has to be some sort of structure there.
In my class, if we're doing a unit on, say, business ethics, then I show them a CNN video of unethical business practices, assign a paper on an aspect of business ethics (i.e. nepotism or insider trading), and make them go online to view a lecture (if available) from a business class and take notes.
It's been moderately successful (some students are very enthusiastic and others just see it as more work) so far. We're getting into a chapter on Literature next, so we'll see what transpires. |
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Sherri
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 749 Location: The Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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That is pretty much what I have planned but our students are lower level, so our topics are closer to their own background knowledge, like education and health. We will have readings on the topic, a listening passage (I like using CNN too). You teach the same reading skills that you would, the same listening and note-taking skills it is just that you are not re-inventing the wheel every time you introduce new material. There will still be grammar, but it will be done in the context of the topic, there will still be vocab.
There is a program I know on Oahu where they use only 1 topic for the whole 16-week semester (like language acquisition) and it works for them. Choosing the right topic is key and I believe that lower levels are best off with very concrete topics while the higher levels can go more abstract. I have worked with more complex topics while in Japan while teaching advanced level learners.
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Of course they need background. And yes, they are university students. It is going to depend on their level as to how deep you'll go in. With most of these students, not too far, but that's okay.
Koizumi as an example
Brainstorm about the prime minister (general knowledge
Do an info gap exercise on fatcs about him
other activities
Thai coup
Thailand general facts, contrast with Japan T/F questions
Talk about leaders what are good quailities (you can provide a list of both good and bad, let students puzzle it out with some assistance)
other activities
I don't do a whole class on one topic except for my academic English class and sometimes my discussion class (they're both intermediate to upper intermediate) |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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My approach is 50% lexical/immersive 50% correction. Unless students know the grammar of their own language there isn't that much point in teaching it... not to Mexicans anyway.  |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 668 Location: performing in a classroom near you!
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and FWIW, EAP is beginning to lean heavily toward a Content-Based Approach. |
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sickbag

Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Blighty
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| TheLongWayHome wrote: |
My approach is 50% lexical/immersive 50% correction. Unless students know the grammar of their own language there isn't that much point in teaching it... not to Mexicans anyway.  |
So true. |
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Cdaniels
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Dunwich, Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Nepotism, shnepotism |
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| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
| then I show them a CNN video of unethical business practices, assign a paper on an aspect of business ethics (i.e. nepotism or insider trading), |
Nepotism is not considered an unethical business practice in many countries, in fact it's often the norm.
In these countries, it would be a great way to make you very unpopular with parents.  |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, some readers may be shocked to hear that nepotism is actually institutionalized here in Mexico. Public primary and secondary school teachers can inherit tenured positions from their parents. And at the CFE (electric company) you can hand pick one family member for a job during your career with them. |
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Deconstructor

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 775 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Now we're in the age of anythinggoes. We've finally discovered that no method really works, so instead of giving up on the whole thing we'd rather believe that every method works. (We just don't know what the hell we're really doing in class, but who knows, we might be right based on the laws of probability.) This in turn means that anything you do in class must be accepted as one more way of doing things. This in turn means that anyone is a teacher, born a teacher, in fact. Before you're a human being, you're a TEFLer. |
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Serious_Fun

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1171 Location: terra incognita
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Deconstructor wrote: |
| ... means that anything you do in class must be accepted as one more way of doing things. |
aaah...you mean CELTA?
Confused Eclectic Language Teaching Approach  |
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Deconstructor

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 775 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Serious_Fun wrote: |
| Deconstructor wrote: |
| ... means that anything you do in class must be accepted as one more way of doing things. |
aaah...you mean CELTA?
Confused Eclectic Language Teaching Approach  |
Celta is a direct product of pure confusion in the TEFL/TESL world. Its approach is to objectify language: That is to say, obsess on grammar; set a goal; make students repeat it, and pretend that they use the language in the real world the way they did in class for two minutes. In the real world, by the way, students speak the way they do regardless of what happens in class, which is at best very little. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 668 Location: performing in a classroom near you!
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Deconstructor wrote: |
| In the real world, by the way, students speak the way they do regardless of what happens in class, which is at best very little. |
Agreed. Most "real-world" English consists of receptive skills. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
| Deconstructor wrote: |
| In the real world, by the way, students speak the way they do regardless of what happens in class, which is at best very little. |
Agreed. Most "real-world" English consists of receptive skills. |
Jackpot...now the key issue. Turning your passive listeners into active users. For many in non-English speaking countries, that's moving from pesos (or dinars, or won, or chickenheads, etc) to dollars. |
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