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Boen



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Good offer for Abu Dhabi Reply with quote

Hi, I was just offered a salary of 31,000 usd per teaching year of 180 days. The offer includes flight, shipping, insurance, and furnished apartment. Is this a good offer? Will I be able to save money? I have to make a choice soon so any feedback is appreciated.
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Manny2



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: More info please Reply with quote

Hi Boen

The merits of any offer depends on your qualifications and experience. So can you give us a little bit more information re:

Your qualifications and teaching experience
Is this primary/secondary/tertiary

Have they given you an actual salary amount in Dirhams that you will take home each month ?

You say this includes a flight- does that include annual vacation flights too?

What about gratuity at the end of the contact ?

Do you have to share accomodation ?
PS tomorrow is the last workday before the Eid holidays and I suspect many teachers on this board will be on vacation for the next 10 days so replies may be slow in coming. Plus while many employers are hiring now due to last minute demands and would like an answer and you to start like yesterday do not be rushed into accepting an offer until you are sure it is a good one.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard of a 'teaching year of 180 days' - what does that mean? Are we talking about a place like HCT? They have a standard academic year with two semesters...

As Manny says... we need more info to be able to tell you if it is a fair offer.

$31000 = about 9500 Dhs...

VS
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Boen



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Thanks, more info a nd questions Reply with quote

Thank you for you insight. As far as more information, it is an international school. That's why the teaching days come out to 180 days per year. They provide a furnished apartment in Abu Dhabi and transportation to and from the school. There is a one month salary bonus at the end of every year and if you stay more than one year they will fly you home once a year.

My concern is with that salary will I be able to save money? Also, what is the lifestyle like in Abu Dhabi? I'm relativly young and single. What is the social scene like? Finally, is it common to teach private EAL classes? If so, how much is the going rate? Again advanced thanks to anyone who replies.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Thanks, more info a nd questions Reply with quote

Boen wrote:
Thank you for you insight. As far as more information, it is an international school. That's why the teaching days come out to 180 days per year. They provide a furnished apartment in Abu Dhabi and transportation to and from the school. There is a one month salary bonus at the end of every year and if you stay more than one year they will fly you home once a year.

My concern is with that salary will I be able to save money?


As long as they're providing your housing --and you can tolerate it-- you'll save money. Don't buy yourself a brand-new Land Cruiser or spend too many weekends at the Burj and you'll be okay.

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Also, what is the lifestyle like in Abu Dhabi?


Well, most folks get up in the morning, go to work, come home, eat, sleep... you know...

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I'm relativly young and single. What is the social scene like?


You have to innovate a bit, but it's not hopeless.

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Finally, is it common to teach private EAL classes? If so, how much is the going rate? Again advanced thanks to anyone who replies.


What's EAL?

English At Lunch?

Entertaining A Loon?
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NadiaK



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Presumably English as an additional language. I think I like yours better, though.
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Abba



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
$31000 = about 9500 Dhs... !!!!!!!!!
VS


Vs, I thought you were an English teacher not a Maths teacher! Laughing Laughing Laughing

$31000 = 113863 UAD / year (1$ = 3.673 as Oct 19 rate).


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....... You are as likely to look foolish as we would if we started trying to explain maths


So, I think both of us are looking foolish Laughing Laughing
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing
Abba, take the first figure VS mentioned and divide it by 12(number of months in a year) guess what you get? yip...... around 9500
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously Abba is not aware that I am also an accountant... and know my way around a calculator... Laughing

Since we always talk monthly - not annual - salary on the board, I was converting it into the number that is normally stated...

(I actually found that confusing when I first started working in the ME. In the US, we always use annual salary, never monthly...)

But, I digress... back to Boen's question.

Savings is a matter of lifestyle. Some save most of their salary (like me), but I also worked with others who spent every bit of it on partying.

VS
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abba wrote:
veiledsentiments wrote:
$31000 = about 9500 Dhs... !!!!!!!!!
VS


Vs, I thought you were an English teacher not a Maths teacher! Laughing Laughing Laughing

$31000 = 113863 UAD / year (1$ = 3.673 as Oct 19 rate).


Quote:
....... You are as likely to look foolish as we would if we started trying to explain maths


So, I think both of us are looking foolish Laughing Laughing


No, you're actually quite far ahead.

113863/12 = 9488

But then you're only concerned with being right, not with being accurate.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

LOL LOL
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Abba



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bindair Dundat wrote:


113863/12 = 9488

But then you're only concerned with being right, not with being accurate.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

LOL LOL


May be, if you mean accuracy is to have "=" equal to "/" , than you are right. Which means, by your above definition, we may also have "1" equal to "0". Laughing Laughing
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abba, there isn't a rock big enough ...
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Boen



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Additional comments Reply with quote

Eal is English as an alternative language. Just a different way to say ESL. Anyway, are there opportunities to teach private EAL classes in the evening? If so, what is the going rate?

A more pratical social question. I understand if you want to go to a pub or a club you must go to a hotel. What is the average cost of a beer and a cocktail in these bars/clubs? Thanks again.

Boen
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would we need another set of letters... that few, if any, have heard of... anyway, what you would be teaching is EFL...

Private lessons are much less common in the Gulf than they are in many other places. None of my fellow tertiary level teachers were doing them, but you may encounter more of it at International School level. I did hear that you would naturally be banned from tutoring your own students - to avoid the problem in places like Egypt where the teachers do nothing in class in order to force their students to have to pay them for private lessons.

Since I never paid for booze or "beep" Laughing I can't answer that one...

VS
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ghost



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: $31000 U.S. is ok Reply with quote

$31,000 per year works out to approx. $2583 U.S. per month, one assumes tax free.

Depending on your lifestyle you should be able to save with that amount. Eating and cooking for oneself are not expensive in the area, especially if you use Philippine stores and other ethnic stores where there are many wonderful deals. The same could be said for eating out, with the many ethnic deals on offer too numerous to mention.

With the above deal, if you do not need transport to get to work, you should be able to save between $1000-$1500 U.S. per month, and possibly more if you live a frugal lifestyle like ghost......who often goes for months living at a basic level.

Since you have free accommodation your $31000 U.S. per year is in actual fact more like $47000 U.S. per year tax free.....

Having accommodation provided is a great stress reliever because you know that you won`t be subject to rent increases and all the other hassles of renting in the Gulf with different sets of rules and expectations.

The big cost for most foreigners in the region is related to accommodation, and the next significant cost would be expenses related to renting or buying a car, and one does not have information on that.

Ghost, McGill University
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