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Obtaining EU passport..yes I searched

 
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ellamarie



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Obtaining EU passport..yes I searched Reply with quote

I know this has been asked a thousand times before but I can't seem to find the specific information I am looking for. I may be interested in teaching in Europe a few years from now, probably in the Czech Republic but I am also interested in other countries. I am of Scots-Irish descent and I have fairly recent ancestors from Prussia(which I think is now part of Poland), Germany, and the Netherlands. So, how do I start the process of obtaining an EU passport? I assume I can't just pull out a 100-year-old photo and hope authorities can see the resemblance. I also have no intention of renouncing my American citizenship-I assume dual citizenship is involved. Can anyone please help me with some information or point me in the right direction?
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dreamingofitaly



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you ask the people who actually give out the passports? Perhaps a consulate could help as that's their job. It is quite a process - my partner's Australian and got his EU passport last year (dad born in England). Getting all the paperwork together did take some time.
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Irish government is about to introduce a new scheme, called Global Irish Territoriality Scheme (GITS).

As many people in the US claim Irish ancestry, and many others around the world do as well, such as in places like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Brazil and South Africa, the Dublin government has realised there is excessive work and expense involved in either processing individual applications, or rejecting them as the case may be, so they've decided to grant an Irish passport to all of the following:

-everyone with an 'O', a 'Mc', a 'Mac' or a 'Fitz' in the their family names over the last five generations;

-everyone who can show an Irish-born relative in the last five generations;

-anyone who has watched "The Quiet Man", "Boystown", "Darby O'Gill" or any Barry Fitzgerald movie at least forty times and can show evidence such as video store rental slips;

-all EFL teachers wanting to work in Europe and get EU passports, but only providing they can speak English at a minimum of beginner level:

-anyone else who wants one, as long as they can pay the as-yet-to-be-announced fees, which are expected to give the Irish economy an even further boost.
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txtraveler



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as others have said, each country is different so your best bet would be to contact the relevant consulates or embassies of countries where you think you may be eligible to apply for citizenship. Be advised though, you usually have to have a parent or grandparent with that citizenship and that neither Germany nor the Netherlands allow dual citizenship for adults.
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Shalana



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This website may be of some help http://www.euimmigration.org/eu_passport.html
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daily chai



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: technicality in NL law favorable to English teachers Reply with quote

txtraveler wrote:
neither Germany nor the Netherlands allow dual citizenship for adults.


Yes, that nasty Rita Verdonk changed Dutch law last year, when I was 1 year away from my NL passport! *BUT* the law in the Netherlands states that if you need your 'other' passport for the purposes of work or owning property and a few other narrowly defined fields then you can have dual citizenship. My Dutch husband called IND the day we found about the change, and they confirmed as I need my US passport for my livelihood (TEFL in Taiwan) then I can keep it. Most countries in Asia require citizenship from an English-speaking country for teaching work. It is quite easy to find supporting documents as official websites for countries show in their regs you need such a passport. If I became Dutch I'd lose my livelihood. We have a Dutch friend with a Phillipine spouse who kept her PH-NL passports as she needed to be Philippine to continue owning her house.

FYI, Belgium allows dual nationality. I have a Turkish friend who was born and raised in Germany and moved to BE so he could keep his Turkish passport and get a Belgian one. BE requires *legal* residence of 5 years to get a passport and he can do that as he has residency granted from German. He recently acquired his Belgian 'white card' 5-year card by exchanging his German residence card for a local one, and is on the countdown to becoming a European national.

Also want to say that the brand-new Dutch government (Rita Verdonk took the previous one down with her) has indicated they will loosen restrictions on immigration, but of course that remains to be seen in practice. Keep an eye out.
They should reverse the dual citizenship law as skilled workers will choose other nationalities, like a Belgian one, rather than giving up their primary citizenship. If you were a doctor from Senegal and had to give up your nationality to live in the Netherlands but you could keep it if you went south to Belgium, where would you go? The law should be changed to attract and retain skilled workers, which every country wants... especially critical in the Nethelands where there has been a net exodus of people--more going out then going in over the past few years. Exclamation
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dagi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"neither Germany nor the Netherlands allow dual citizenship for adults."

That is not true. In certain case the Netherlands and Germany do allow dual citizenship. It often depends on agreements with other countries, a factor is often marriage or having parents with different nationalities.
I know a few people who have dual nationalities like German-Swiss or German-American or Dutch-German.

Back to OP. To get a EU nationality you will have to either have parents with a EU nationality (at the time of your birth) or simply have to be a resident in a country for several years, do all the integration and language learning and then apply for citizenship.
Some Irish, Prussian or whatever ancestor won't get you citizenship. Full stop.
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micki



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually you'll find that many countries allowed you to go back to grandparents to gain citizenship- most of my Canadian friends have done it that way.
Micki
p.s. love Bebsi's post when I worked in a summer school last year the Americans had Irish passports- never been there in their lives and knew bugger all about the country, but claimed Irish ancestry and viola, an EU passport was theirs!
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Caledonian Craig



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am of Scots-Irish descent and I have fairly recent ancestors from Prussia(which I think is now part of Poland), Germany, and the Netherlands. So, how do I start the process of obtaining an EU passport?


love it! love the optimism!

As a Scotsman, I am of Celtic or possibly Anglo-Saxon descent. Can I have a German passport, please?

And I think the previous post highlights the ridiculousness of the situation. Getting the passport cos one of your Grandparents was from EU, and never even having been to/lived in/ born in the country!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so bad as the poster a few months ago asking for information on how to marry a European girl to get the passport.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Pleeze can I hav a EU passport? Pleeeeze?? Pretty Pleeze???? Reply with quote

Looks like the rats are lining up to jump ship
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