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deessell2
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Under the sun
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: Paraquay and George Bush? |
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I am doing a little 'research' and part of that inludes the claim that George Bush owns land down there. I am aware that the Reverend Moon has land but can anyone give me information on the Bush family. Please PM me if you would prefer. |
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Sgt Killjoy

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 438
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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It is intriguing if he does, not sure how you could verify it. Paraguay is always a country I would like to visit. |
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Aramas
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 874 Location: Slightly left of Centre
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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What an absurd idea. I very much doubt that GW could find Paraguay on a map. |
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RyanS

Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 356
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Paraguay has very limited sovereignity, the US Ambassador has more power than the president.
Recently the US sent troops down there in order to "fight terrorism" which should be viewed as intervening in the advent of a civil war in Bolivia, which the US trying to provoke by funding both opposition groups and seperation groups, which are of whiter skin and richer, in the eastern Oil rich proviences of Bolivia. |
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matttheboy

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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ooo, don't forget the aquifier those dastardly yanks are trying to get their hands on. |
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Sgt Killjoy

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 438
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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matt, are you Canadian or moonraven?
Why would the US be interested in an aquifer in South America? |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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If your read Spanish, do a good search at www.prensalatina.com and www.aporrea.org . If not, do a google search for "George Bush Land Purchase Paraguay," and you'll find a lot.
There are quite a few articles about the recent Bush purchase. Also about Bush's daughter's involvement in it. It's quite near a US military base under development, where US military personel have been granted "Immunity from international prosecution, including war crimes and crimes against humanity, local prosecution, and extradition." The base and the immunity treaty are provable; a matter of public record in Paraguay. I didn't really see anything that looked like hard evidence of the land purchase; still, a lot of people are reacting to it. Seems likely to me.
They are both (the base and the alleged Bush family land) in the area of the Guarani aquifer in northern Paraguay. As to why the US might be interested in this aquifer, was that a serious question? Depending on which geological survey you go with, it's either the second or the third largest source of fresh water in the world. As such, its economic value is incalculable. Not to mention the leverage it would provide to whoever controls it- it's the primary source of water for a lot of the people who would be affected by proposed MERCOSUR treaties and agreements. A government that was interested in undermining MERCOSUR and other Latin American movements towards solidarity and independence could do well by threatening to turn off the water to those people.
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Aramas wrote: |
What an absurd idea. I very much doubt that GW could find Paraguay on a map. |
But haven't you heard? He uses the Google on the Internets to look up maps. He doesn't use email though, so no point in asking him about Paraguay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ0BtSLD3sc |
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guangho

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 476 Location: in transit
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Paraguay is where all the cool war criminals go. And Chile of course. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like Bush is preparing for the possiblity of sudden retirement...
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Phil_b
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 239 Location: Back in London
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Personally it sounds more like Paraguayan rumour-mongering more than anything else.
It is true that PY's government is very close to Bush (possibly in an attempt to get the rest of MERCOSUR to pay attention to them) and the aquifer is big news all over South America - and it has lead to a lot of land buying in Paraguay. Probably because it's cheap and it's an anarchic enough country that if you've got enough ca$h you can do what you like. |
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