Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Selling ESL Experience to Employers Back Home
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
clock



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 38
Location: Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Selling ESL Experience to Employers Back Home Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I've just returned home from teaching overseas and am looking for work.

The job market these days is pretty tough. They give you what they term 'Behavioural interviews', where you have to relate your past experience to the job you're trying to get.

Anyhow, I ws wondering if anyone has been in this situation before and how they marketed their ESL experience to non-ESL employers.

Here are a few of the transferable skills which I have come up with from ESL:


Communication skills: obviously it gives you the ability to relate ideas succinctly and concisely.

Teamwork: Almost all ESL jobs require collaboration with other teachers, including foreign staff, so in theory(!), we should be able to work with others.

Flexibility: We've all arrived in at work to find that teacher X has called in with a hangover and you have to do his class without any planning, or you have to take the Cambridge exam class cause mrs 10 years experience is sick and you have never taught CAE before.

Computer skills: I don't know about you but I've improved my ability with powerpoint, Excel (tests and assessment) and of course basic word-processing (lesson plans, worksheets) while I've been teaching.

organisation: juggling everyhting a teacher has to do is valuable experience, the ability to prioritise tasks perhaps?

Can you add some more?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Posts: 5880
Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Multi-tasking (a good "professional" word).

Training skills - - if you can speak to a class of 50 whose L1 is completely different to yours - - AND MAKE THEM SOMEHOW UNDESTAND - - then surely you can conduct training sessions in such-and-such job back home.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sheeba



Joined: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 1123

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think to understand the learning/acquisition process can be transferred to almost any job. Whatever jobs we do we need to learn .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
clock



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 38
Location: Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Both very good, thoughtful points.

Regarding acquisition, I think one thing I've learnt from teaching is (although it might seem common sense) that the best way to learn a skill is to actually do it, and make a few initial mistakes.
ie the best way to teach English is to contextualise the language and/or include useful functions rather than "Today we're going to study the past perfect"
oh and don't be afraid to ask questions. It really annoys me when students don't ask when they blatantly don't get something, but I've been guilty of it myself. Like when I start a new job I'm usually a bit hesitant to ask too many questions
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Deicide



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Caput Imperii Americani

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I think EFL is useless outside of EFL...and the longer you are in it, the harder it is to get out... Confused
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 1665
Location: chip van

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deicide wrote:
Personally I think EFL is useless outside of EFL...and the longer you are in it, the harder it is to get out... Confused


Absolutely agree and EFL is pretty useless inside EFL.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Deicide



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Caput Imperii Americani

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
Deicide wrote:
Personally I think EFL is useless outside of EFL...and the longer you are in it, the harder it is to get out... Confused


Absolutely agree and EFL is pretty useless inside EFL.


Let's drink to that... Razz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
guangho



Joined: 16 Oct 2004
Posts: 476
Location: in transit

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuing you have some IT knowledge (i.e. how to use Powerpoint), you can combine that with a teaching background- many companies are looking for corporate trainers.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
saint57



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 1221
Location: Beyond the Dune Sea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deicide, are you surviving Ulsan? That place is the worst. I met some strange foreigners in Korea, but Ulsan's freaks shocked me. I also had my worst hangover in Korea while there. I do remember having a great meal at a place some foreigner opened with his Korean wife.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Deicide



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Caput Imperii Americani

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint57 wrote:
Deicide, are you surviving Ulsan? That place is the worst. I met some strange foreigners in Korea, but Ulsan's freaks shocked me. I also had my worst hangover in Korea while there. I do remember having a great meal at a place some foreigner opened with his Korean wife.


Surviving, just barely...I am getting the hell out of here next year....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 1665
Location: chip van

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guangho wrote:
Assuing you have some IT knowledge (i.e. how to use Powerpoint), you can combine that with a teaching background- many companies are looking for corporate trainers.


Would you post the details of these companies that are looking for TEFLers who have picked up a little powerpoint but have no IT qualifications?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
guangho



Joined: 16 Oct 2004
Posts: 476
Location: in transit

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
guangho wrote:
Assuing you have some IT knowledge (i.e. how to use Powerpoint), you can combine that with a teaching background- many companies are looking for corporate trainers.


Would you post the details of these companies that are looking for TEFLers who have picked up a little powerpoint but have no IT qualifications?


Do a search for "corporate trainer" or corporate trainers on any of the big job boards, i.e. monster. Most want experience but I think that teaching experience and some comp skills go a long way. Pay is generally 40K (entry level) on up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 1665
Location: chip van

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done that and found no ads suitable for TEFLers.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cam



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 124
Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Assuing you have some IT knowledge (i.e. how to use Powerpoint), you can combine that with a teaching background- many companies are looking for corporate trainers.


Do you really think that knowing how to use power point could be considered as IT knowledge? Most high school kids have a basic if not advanced knowledge of power point.

Quote:
Training skills - - if you can speak to a class of 50 whose L1 is completely different to yours - - AND MAKE THEM SOMEHOW UNDESTAND - - then surely you can conduct training sessions in such-and-such job back home.


Could you give some examples of jobs where this could be helpful? Most training sessions back home would be with fairly competent English speakers so I don't see how your ESL experience could be put to use in this case.

ESL/EFL experience abroad does not prepare one for a job outside of the field in one's homeland.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
Deicide



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Caput Imperii Americani

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cam wrote:
Quote:
Assuing you have some IT knowledge (i.e. how to use Powerpoint), you can combine that with a teaching background- many companies are looking for corporate trainers.


Do you really think that knowing how to use power point could be considered as IT knowledge? Most high school kids have a basic if not advanced knowledge of power point.

Quote:
Training skills - - if you can speak to a class of 50 whose L1 is completely different to yours - - AND MAKE THEM SOMEHOW UNDESTAND - - then surely you can conduct training sessions in such-and-such job back home.


Could you give some examples of jobs where this could be helpful? Most training sessions back home would be with fairly competent English speakers so I don't see how your ESL experience could be put to use in this case.

ESL/EFL experience abroad does not prepare one for a job outside of the field in one's homeland.


Let's drink to that too Razz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China