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william wallace



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: CHINA Reply with quote

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7969



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Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching Korean teens IN CHINA Reply with quote

william wallace wrote:
I had tried to post this on one of the Korean forums, but it appears that a seperate password is needed; I guess that is a remnant of the 1996-1999 Dave's Cafe.
I'm teaching some Korean teens and I'm astounded at how serious they are. Once in a while, I come across some Chinese teens with the hearts of middle-aged folks, but this is the first time the whole class is as serious as a heart attack. One geeky 13 year old boy in his introduction spoke of being "depressed" and overworked, and was quite dispirited. Is this typical of Korean teen keeners ?

Quite frankly, I find the class tedious and unpleasant.

my first esl job was in korea. i didnt really like it. in my opinion, the korean kids arent a lot different than the chinese ones. and they can be just as nationalistic and easily allow themselves to be blindly led into hating someone. i was in korea during the 2002 winter olympics and a lot of koreans were extremely angry at the USA and americans when an american speed skater was alleged to have held onto a korean skater and skated past him for the gold medal.

the korea forum does require a separate p/w. not sure why they never changed that.
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably dobule pressure from having the same Confucian ethos while living in a foreign country where nothing but money and status count...if you lose your parents lose too, and that's a serious moral depressant.
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Brian Caulfield



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WW I spent 8 years in Korea . It is maybe the most competitive country in the world . I think the Korean kids I met here in China would be like your students . The kids get everything they want except their parents love . The father works hard and is never home . The mother is busy spending his money and worrying about the kids . They hire tutors to come to the house everyday . It is all about getting the kids into Seoul National University . So the children have no time to play or dream . They have everything but are angry .
My suggestion is to lighten up the class . Play some music and have them do close exercises with the lyrics . Do role plays . Get them moving around in your classes . Don't let them hide in the corners of your classroom . Take them outside and play running dictation . Teach them the kimchi song . You replace sugar in the song ( Sugar in the morning sugar in the evening )with Kimchi . Kimchi is the staple of a Korean meal .
Your a lucky guy Willian . Have you noticed that the Koreans are better listeners than the Chinese ?
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: .............. Reply with quote

nothing to say

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richie122



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently teaching Korean highschool kids. From what I see they are either really serious, or really tired! These students arrive school at 8:15 everyday, have the pleasure of home room class for 15 minutes, then begin the academic day. 8:30 to 12:00: Four classes. One hour lunch. Then 1:00 to 3:30 three more classes. After school they are taken by bus to an academy where they have more classes until 7:00 pm.

If the depressed geek goes to a school anything like the high school I teach at, he'll hang himself.
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jg



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught Korean teens in Shanghai and I was amazed at their lack of seriousness - it was a pass/pass system, and everyone knew it. Sorry to hear they see themselves as "depressed" but I translates into them being good students for you and not napping, day-dreaming and grooming themselves (and each other) in class.

Korean Intl School my butt!
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching Korean teens IN CHINA Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
the korea forum does require a separate p/w. not sure why they never changed that.


Probably to keep out the rabble!

Have you seen those forums?

They make the China (Off-topic) Forum look like a paragon of civility.
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