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Ahmed_ONLINE



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: The Bad Workman..... Reply with quote

Most people complaining about their employers, wether previous or present, fall into the category of ' THE BAD WORKMAN'...

The bad workman quarrels with his tools, not because his tools are poor, but because he himself is off-balance inside, and has become quarrelsome by nature. It is seldom the case that shoddy workmanship is due to inadequate equipment or difficult working conditions. It results, for the most part, from the fact that the workman himself is shoddy and indifferent in his attitude. Have we not observed that complaints usually come from individuals who are accustomed to complaining, who have acquired the habit through the years of whining and remonstrating on every slight occasion? The constant complainer needs no particular tragedy about which to be upset. He creates his own tragedies out of the illusionary imaginings of lower mind. Why is it that so few individuals have the courage to look within themselves for the source of their complaints? Why is it that so few are willing to admit that perhaps the real demon of discontent is some secret ambition or personal desire rooted in their own hearts, and that the cause of their unhappiness, and even their lack of skill, is an unbalanced attitude of mind? Perhaps because it is easier to blame something outside. Perhaps because it is the custom nowadays to cast the onus of responsibility upon externals -- upon tools, circumstances, people -- anywhere except where it belongs -- that is, upon ourselves. Suppose conditions are bad and tools inadequate -- does constant complaining help the situation?
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct. Alot of employers are tools.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: The Bad Workman..... Reply with quote

Ahmed_ONLINE wrote:

Why is it that so few individuals have the courage to look within themselves for the source of their complaints?


Are you one of the very special few?
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Linguist



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps because it is the custom nowadays to cast the onus of responsibility upon externals -- upon tools, circumstances, people


While I do agree to a large extent that some workers enjoy blaming others for their own dissatisfaction with life in KSA, not all cases of dissatisfaction in the workplace are related to personal issues.

Please re-read the threads about some particular workplaces that are known to be bad employers such as DIFA, Prince Sultan University among others. You'll see that there are grounds for wishing that these places have never have existed in the first place.
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Van Norden



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a 'bad workman', as you call it, but I don't blame anyone (except maybe Dad for not being rich.) Work is degrading - I don't want to be good at it.
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Rennenkampf



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely this forum exists to promote the exchange of factual information
about employers? If factual information about the tools is unfavourable
should it be censored?
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: The Bad Workman..... Reply with quote

Ahmed_ONLINE wrote:
Why is it that so few are willing to admit that perhaps the real demon of discontent is some secret ambition or personal desire rooted in their own hearts, and that the cause of their unhappiness, and even their lack of skill, is an unbalanced attitude of mind? Perhaps because it is easier to blame something outside. Perhaps because it is the custom nowadays to cast the onus of responsibility upon externals -- upon tools, circumstances, people -- anywhere except where it belongs -- that is, upon ourselves. Suppose conditions are bad and tools inadequate -- does constant complaining help the situation?


Ahmed, I picked up your furtune cookie by accident:

"Young grasshopper Ahmed, you are very wise and have taken the teaching of the master to heart. Your next step to understanding is discernment between complaints and the true desire for progress. The passion to improve is lead by the heart, and the higher mind. Take your monkey chatter out of your meditation and then you will know truth vs illusion and deception. Do not fall into the trap of the lower mind and complain about that which may lead to enlightenment."


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007



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: The Bad Workman..... Reply with quote

Ahmed_ONLINE wrote:
....Have we not observed that complaints usually come from individuals who are accustomed to complaining, who have acquired the habit through the years of whining and remonstrating on every slight occasion? The constant complainer needs no particular tragedy about which to be upset. He creates his own tragedies out of the illusionary imaginings of lower mind. Why is it that so few individuals have the courage to look within themselves for the source of their complaints?


This is some kind of �psychological� and �philosophical� analysis of human behaviour and personality, and it seems is influenced by �karma� belief and philosophy of higher and lower minds!
I think you cannot apply this philosophy in the area of employers and employees.
So, for example, if we take the thousands of poor workers, like the Indians, Pilipino, Pakistanis, Bengalis, Egyptians, who are ill-treated in their personal life and work, do you think all theses poor people are �BAD Workmen�, or may be the source of their complaints is not their employer, but is somewhere in their lower mind, or may be some �fuses� in their minds are bust or not working properly!!
Come on Ahmed Online, I think you are �off-line� of what is happening to these poor workmen from their real employers and not from their illusionary imaginings of their lower mind. I think they are using their upper mind properly and they are right in complaining about their employers.

I wonder if Mr Ahmed Online is in a position of one of the poor worman where his salary is late for 6 months, what will he do in this case? Of course, he will consult his lower mind and find that his entire problem is an illusionary imagination and he will not complaint only to himself! Which in this case he will be found dead by heart attack!! Because his lower mind could not negotiate with his higher mind a solution for his problem, so they will send a wrong signal to his heart which will make it stop for more than one minute, so our friend Ahmed Online will lose both his lower and higher mind to Karma!!!. Laughing Laughing

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Suppose conditions are bad and tools inadequate -- does constant complaining help the situation?


Of course, it will help, it has been proven that when workers go on strike or for complaint, most of the cases they get a results, look to the history my friend you will learn a lot from what is happening in ground and not in the lower mind.
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also in saudi



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People complain about their employers because the employers lack ethics. They deceive with false information about the job. They fail to pay on time (7+ months late or perhaps never). They fail to provide medical insurance, reimburse for expenses or pay benefits.

All nationalities are affected by these [censored] morons, including Americans, British, Germans, not only Third World. These people are experts in their fields, and work hard and do their best for their employer, but the employer is not loyal and does not value their services.

Do not blame the worker for problems he did not create and cannot control. Leaving the situation is not always possible.
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kilometro parado wrote:
Perhaps young grasshopper is referring to the fact that the "tool" in question is actually the workers mind. If the workman is not diligent in sharpening this tool...he may find that is becomes dull and ineffective.
The Bad Workman can only blame himself for not taking the initiative to sharpen his tool on a regular basis.
I don't think that grasshopper was referring to the 3rd world workforce but specifically to the TEFLR.
For more insight on what this TEFLR is and why he or she comes to KSA...check out earlier post:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=33625&highlight=type
By Gabe Kessel....An oasis for us losers.
Reread his post and ask yourself, which category do I fall in? Am I using my tool properly? How can I improve on the use of this tool?


You are interesting and wise, therefore I will call you "Iraqi grasshopper with tools"
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