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Opening a new school...Beijing English students

 
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ppzz70



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Opening a new school...Beijing English students Reply with quote

I'm considering opening up an English school catering mostly to Chinese and Koreans (both on-line and classroom). A few questions...
how is the English learning environment in Beijing currently compared to other parts of China?
what are the biggest challenges to catering to Chinese students (especially in Beijing)?
for anyone with experience teaching in Beijing, what did you find most unexpected, pleasant or otherwise?
Thanks,
Phil
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Catering to Chinese Students Reply with quote

"What are the biggest challenges to catering to Chinese students (especially in Beijing)?" -- Phil

The biggest challenge in my experience is that, once they've forked over their money, they feel that all the hard work is done. Common complaints (along with their presumed meanings) are "I can't understand the teacher" (he/she was speaking to us in English), or "We'd like to communicate more in class" (he/she tried to make US speak English). Nearly all have had extensive experience with the grammar-translation approach to language learning. Their lack of success with this method to date does not ordinarily shake their faith in its absolute efficacy. Therefore, any attempts to force more modern learning methods and materials on them could result in a loss of cliental.
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Opening a new school...Beijing English students Reply with quote

Right on China Pete!
Other parts of China aren't much defferent, in my opinion.

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any attempts to force more modern learning methods and materials on them could result in a loss of cliental
i can back that one up with my own experience

OP, I don't know whether you are a foreigner or Chinese, but if you aren't a Chinese I have one suggestion for you. Do not promote your school as the owner!

Good luck to your venture
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cheers and beers Very Happy
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KES



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if you aren't a Chinese I have one suggestion for you. Do not promote your school as the owner!


That's interesting advice. I'm curious as why you would offer this advice.

I know you previously opened a school so you can perhaps elaborate on your experience.

Is it due to licensing, legal, advertising or consumer issues?

Thanks
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Opening a new school...Beijing English students Reply with quote

With all due respect to ya KES, stop trollin'..you know the answer Wink ...but since you might have a "tandem" on here somewhere Laughing ...i'll give ya a lill tidbit to fill yor empty stomach..gov officials in China often are interested in foreign owned/run companies and that especially with regards to education, and then there's that "true" Chinese competition..they are hungry too, so why should a laowai take "the bread" away from them Wink

Peace to ya KES
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cheers and beers to the OP's new venture Very Happy
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cj750



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

, like KES, wonder at this also as many successful schools in china are promoted as a foreign owned and operated schools..such as David's school in Changchun ..started with the help of some ladies group. It would seem that many foreigners who own school..such as Future school in Dalian..enjoy the benefit of being known as a foreigner own school...

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i'll give ya a lill tidbit to fill yor empty stomach..gov officials in China often are interested in foreign owned/run companies and that especially with regards to education, and then there's that "true" Chinese competition..they are hungry too, so why should a laowai take "the bread" away


English, it would seem that the locals are bright enough to know what businesses are foreign own without being tipped off by the English sounding name...and Chinese competition would surely know through the grapevine that a foreigner was pic kin up the receipts and signing the bank statements..as Chinese accountants will talk..there are many foreign own schools handing the Chinese competition their "hat"
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viovio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recruit me! Wink I can teach English and Spanish.

I haven zero experience outside of Chile, but I think that most problems teachers have is because of a lack of support on the part of the administration.
If teachers feel that their bosses listen and consider their opinions, they are much happier and confident to teach.
The number of students is also fundamental for the success of a language course. It would be very difficult to (effectively)teach to more than 20 in a beginners class.
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Welcome to China Reply with quote

"It would be very difficult to (effectively) teach... more than 20 in a beginners class." -- Viovio

Hope you're not planning on working at a university, where 60 plus students may be more like the norm. Of course, by the time they get into a university, the students aren't supposed to be beginners.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Dear OP........ Reply with quote

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