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Tessio



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: History of English Corner Reply with quote

I have also asked this on the Off Topic site.

Does any out there know about the origins of English Corner, especially here in China?

I have searched on the internet, but haven't found any information about when the first English Corner took place? and Why?

As everyone knows, EC is all about getting the students talking, but I have a few students who complain that I don't talk enough. All they want is a Lecture so they can improve their listening skills. That's what I have been told.

I would like to print something and have them read that EC is about Speaking, not Listening.

Thanks
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beleive it first started in the 1840's - when a business man from Manchester convinced a load of the locals to stand in a corner and then sold them opium - hence the name English corner Idea
In those days people were a lot more hooked on this activity - but due to all that smoking, rarely talked in any language what so ever Laughing
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Hendahu



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked what vikdk had to say about it. Sometime at our English corner, it seems like some are on opium...but to promote talking simply ask and answer questions. You will end up talking more than students, but it is a start. Learning English is a four fold process, talking, listening, reading and writing, so do not worry if they listen more at first. Let their confidence build and then raise your expectations. Oh, by the way, I have no idea where english corner began..
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erinyes



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know nothing about the origins of English corner, but if people are not talking you should write on the BB "keep quite if you agree" and then start saying outrageous things, simple things at first; the sky is red

get them to disagree, and then work your way up to controversial things like "if the people of xinjaing want to be free from China and form another country, they should be allowed to"

of course, no one will accuse you of being a subversive if you work up to this... but they will vehemently disagree, with passion... so that might get them talking.
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InTime



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From pg. 1, Promoting Change in China's Classrooms thread:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=16848

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The phrase �promote the new� resonates with unique dynamics in China, which has for millennia been a nation profoundly influenced by precedents, tradition and custom. One China researcher has noted: �no dictator ever ruled with greater power than �Precedent in China.�� (Lauer) This Movie Magic English Corner project is building upon two precedents in China�(1)English learning and (2)English Corners. Over the past 20 years they have been increasingly perceived as a valuable asset for China�s �Opening to the World� initiated by Deng Xiao Peng. The status of English in China has shifted from that of a scorned pariah (intensely so during the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution) to one of high prestige today. Centuries ago, during the early days of the Canton settlements, only the despised 'linguists', social outcasts to a man, were permitted to learn the barbarians' tongue. In contrast, English is nowadays a prerequisite for both academic development and political advancement, as it would appear from the growing numbers of competent English speakers among top-ranking leaders in the Chinese Communist Party.


English Corners started in response to Deng's Opening to the World in 1979. They were closed by the PLA after the 1989 TienAnMen incident. Within a few years the public ECs were up-and-running again, in parks and on university campuses all over China. As an example of the degree of the process of CHANGE...note that prior to the APEC meeting in Shanghai several years ago, PLA was actively promoting English Corners for PRC govt. officials.

I wrote an article for the Journal of Imagination in Language Learning, called "China's English Corners and the Learning Revolution," offering ideas for promoting whole-brained options for ECs...such as:
*Role Play
*Imagination

MORE from the thread:

Quote:
Certainly China's English Corners are a major improvement upon the typical overcrowded/stress-filled/boring English classroom in China. With the Beijing 2008 Olympics approaching, the Chinese national and local governments are increasingly focused upon the need to promote cost-effective mass English training. The context and content of English Corners can be expanded and deepened.


Yes...Change isn't ensured.
Myth of Sisyphus?
BUT...being part of a movement w/kindred folks...
...some are attracted the the process-in-itself
...an Archimedean Strategy...
...100th Monkey?
...linked w/others in day-to-day on-site creations...
...Aquarian Conspiracy&whole-brained"English Pedagogical Evolution"
China has the opportunity/necessity to develop an Alternative Model of development...
...A Sustainable Development alternative to the US-model of "Full speed ahead!" neo-Titanic course headed for eco-catastrophe
In the spirit of "retarded lead" China can/must develop Alternatives...
Of course, it's only "can/must"...not necessarily "will"
That's part of the process of Aquarian Conspiracy&100th Monkey
Promoting Sustainable China...thru our students we touch the future...
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sheeba



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"keep quite if you agree


Good idea but watch your spelling .
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jwbhomer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]get them to disagree, and then work your way up to controversial things like "if the people of xinjaing want to be free from China and form another country, they should be allowed to"[/quote]

Sounds like a great way to get yourself fired! In the standard university contract teachers are expressly prohibited from discussing politics and religion in the classroom. Last I heard that includes English Corner.

(I also have no idea who started English Corner, but I know most universities have one. I thought it was pretty much a waste of time.)
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7969



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the english corner where i currently work is pretty good. well attended, each week a different english education (future english teachers) class is responsible for organizing it, they set up tea, a few different games, draw prizes for those students who managed to hang out till the end of the activity. and people even speak english there!

so for the first time in three years, i can finally say i've seen an english corner that didnt resemble what most of you seem to be experiencing.
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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese think English people have square heads . They feel that we will be more comfortable in a corner where our heads will fit more easily when we try to hide from embarassment .
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it all began in Shenyang 25 years ago.

But it was at a major circle, not a corner.

I could tell you more but I am tired just now.
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InTime



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shenyang???

Thanks for that INFO...looking forward to more...

Shenyang's English Corner carries on the tradition. When I was teaching at China Medical U. and doing a gig at American Chamber of Commerce, I participated regularly at the 7-nights-a-week English Corner at nearby ZhongShan Square (actually...a Circle). Quiite an extraordinary/surreal environment. EC is next to a huge (largest in China)statue of Mao and sincere-faced revolutionaries of all ages

Esewhere in the GuanCheng are folks doing:
*badminton
*folk dancing
*bicycle acrobatics

Great place!
Many high level English speakers/thinkers...
including some charming Super-Children
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now there are coffee shop(s)? in Shenyang called "English Corner."
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