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Do you need a degree or not?
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tristanv



Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Do you need a degree or not? Reply with quote

Hello, I don't know if this belongs in the newbie forum, but I have done a number of forum searches on whether a degree is needed to get a FM3 in Mexico and I seem to be getting conflicting reports. On some posts it's stated you need one, while on others it's stated one is not needed. Can anyone definitively clarify this point? Or is it just a matter of where you apply for a FM3 in Mexico?

Also, just as a side question, what's a good place to start out teaching English in Mexico?

Thanks.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best to line up a job first and ask the employing school if the immigration department in their area requires one. Technically, a degree is required by the government - leaving aside whether a the employer needs it or not. The reason you get conflicting reports is because things are not uniform across the country. If you visit a Mexican consulate or embassy they will tell you yes. If you visit immi here, some will say yes, others will only require the paperwork from a school, and still others will elicit a bribe. Welcome to Mexico.
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grahamcito



Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 90
Location: Guadalajara

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: GDL Reply with quote

Out here in GDL, immigration normally ask to see a degree certificate OR a TEFL certificate ... but not both.
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asi va



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From this post, I take it that you don`t necessarily need a university level degree to enter a TEFL course. Is that the case? I will most likely find myself in Mexico (GDL) early next year due to immigration problems. While I think I have a way worked out to get a nonemployment FM3, I will need something to do to keep from going bonkers if nothing else. Does anyone know of there are opportunities for volunteer ESL teachers? I`ve done it in the US as a volunteer and I liked it. Hopefully, this doesn`t require working papers- it`s VERY important to me that I not be deported from Mexico.
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asi va



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something else just crossed my mind- if it`s feasible to do volunteer work, would that likely be interfering with the profesionals and their jobs?
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can volunteer to teach English in places like the orphanages. The kids love having someone spend time with them. This kind of activity will be of no concern to Immigration.

Out of curiousity, which type of FM3 are you shooting for? It sounds as if you are trying to organize it prior to coming to Mexico.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 1016
Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: GDL Reply with quote

grahamcito wrote:
Out here in GDL, immigration normally ask to see a degree certificate OR a TEFL certificate ... but not both.

Here too, in San Luis Potosi.
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asi va



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys.

Samantha wrote:

Out of curiousity, which type of FM3 are you shooting for? It sounds as if you are trying to organize it prior to coming to Mexico.


Marriage based, if I can swing it- I found the requirements on the INM website, but I have yet to hear from anyone who`s gone that route, so it`s a little iffy. Next bet would be employer sponsorship, though I really don`t have any qualifications. Bomb-proof last ditch effort would be to cash in enough of my retirement account to keep the INM happy and just eat the penalty. Either way, eventually naturalize so I can get back to work at what I know.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INAMI will require your Mexican spouse to prove that he or she can support you in Mexico and that's an annual pain in the neck. Just so you don't have to cash your retirement out and take a penalty to satisfy INAMI. They just need to see proof that you have that little nest egg tucked away (your home bank financial statements).....or, as I have seen done, as long as you can show the minimum required deposit into your account for the last 3 months prior to applying for the FM3 Rentista (Retiree) that makes them happy. They don't care if the deposit lands in the account today and disappears tomorrow. As long as they can see it deposited each month. Several I know here use the same money, and withdraw and redeposit it each month for the recent 3 months before renewing...Not exactly what INAMI had in mind, but it works just the same. So there are two more options for you which I have seen used successfully in case your other option doesn't work out. Hope this helps.
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Sgt Killjoy



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My info is a bit dated, circa 2000 to be exact, but if you had something to show as having any kind of education then you got it in the DF. I did it on 3 years of college transcripts, not even apostilled, just the stamp from the university. I know a guy who got the FM-3 with an apostilled high school diploma. I think it goes like this, you need to prove to the person issuing the FM-3 that you are qualified to do the job you are being hired to do.
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