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elaina



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
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Location: Calgary, Alberta

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Conversational Road Block Reply with quote

I am currently teaching conversational english to a new resident of Canada. During class, she is a fireball!!! She speaks, laughs and debates with absolutely no problems. She is confident in public situations with her english ie: ordering coffe, lunch, talking to her daughters school. However, when her husband is around she doesn't speak any english. He tends to push her to speak and corrects her every time she speaks. He feels that since she "obviously" is not using her english skills, that there may be a problem with the teacher. Does anyone have any ideas on how to address this issue?
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than punching the husband (just kidding), I would say that you might want to talk to him in private. Tell him you can see that his wife is somewhat (an understatement!) inhibited by his presence, and that he shouldn't do the correcting. You should. Besides, she should feel more comfortable making mistakes with the teacher around, and the key is communication anyway. Also, tell him that you have seen her as a real fireball in class, so you know she can do things better than when he's around. Hint, hint, hubby. Stop browbeating her.

If she is vying for a translator/interpreter position, that might make the situation a little different, where accuracy is more important than mere communication.

I assume the husband is Canadian. What nationality is the wife?
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elaina



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually they are both from Venezuela, he is here on a work visa with a large corporation and she is along for the ride. (I agree with the beating though:)
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Jetgirly



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you send home a report card? Make it look like you send it home with every student and outline her particular in-class strengths. I think that approaching the husband is somewhat inappropriate (I mean, college profs don't approach their students' spouses). I think you're going to have to tread lightly here; you don't him to "lose face".
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you could also video or at least audio tape her in class and send a sample copy to the husband and that should dispel any doubts the husband has about her abilities (and ours).
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways wrote:
Maybe you could also video or at least audio tape her in class and send a sample copy to the husband and that should dispel any doubts the husband has about her abilities (and ours).


I would be very careful with this approach. You should never record a student without his/her consent. If you are to show this recording to the husband then you have to do so with his wife's permission. It is also not clear whether the husband will be as impressed with her abilities as you hope he is. What if he were to watch the recording with her and paused the recording periodically to admonish her about what he perceives she's doing wrong.
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DainaJ



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is between you and the student. If the student has a problem with you, then deal with the student. If the wife has a problem with the husband, then none of your business. If he's paying the bill and decides to switch teachers - not a lot you can do.

I think any adult would be incredibly offended if you went to their spouse to talk about their school progress.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think DainaJ's advice is spot-on: this is a problem between the student and her spouse, and you should stay out of it if it doesn't impact the class.

I don't understand why the husband is in her class. Question If he is a student put him in a different class, and if not, he shouldn't be there interfering.
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Tuttifruitti



Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree with the last two posts - you do your job well and you don't have a problem with her in your class.
The other possibility is that she may not want him to know just how good she is. I've seen it happen before - a wife/daughter playing down her abilities because she doesn't want to stop going to classes.
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elaina



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are not in class together. It is outside of class that the issues happen. They invited me over for dinner the other night and she didnt speak two words in English because everytime she spoke he made a point of correcting her tone etc. A few weeks ago, it was the same thing. I ran into them at Starbucks and chatted for a while. Not two words out of her. I just dont want to have her feel like she is not progressing on account of him. I agree with the point about not speaking with him as he is not my student, but I don't know how to make her feel better about her skills witout putting the husband down.
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sallycat



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can see why this upsets you, but i honestly don't think there is anything you can do. you can't sort out her marriage problems.

in class, make sure you make sure she knows how good she is (although i get the feeling you already do this). that's about all you can do.
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Venti



Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Location: Kanto, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Conversational Road Block Reply with quote

elaina wrote:
I am currently teaching conversational english to a new resident of Canada. During class, she is a fireball!!! She speaks, laughs and debates with absolutely no problems. She is confident in public situations with her english ie: ordering coffe, lunch, talking to her daughters school. However, when her husband is around she doesn't speak any english. He tends to push her to speak and corrects her every time she speaks. He feels that since she "obviously" is not using her english skills, that there may be a problem with the teacher. Does anyone have any ideas on how to address this issue?


Could it be that she's playing a role that she believes is the correct one? You know, give the husband the satisfaction of being the boss and show him that he's the superior one in the relationship? It could be cultural or just the nature of the dynamic of their relationship. Anyway, just a thought.
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