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Arab Strap



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Bottom of the heap............ Reply with quote

Saudi universities ranked the worst on the planet.

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19237&Itemid=116

discuss:

One's chest swells with pride.
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Queen of Sheba



Joined: 07 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you feel responsible for this? After all, we dont teach academic courses as ESL teachers. This is what we are always complaining about anyway - Administration rarely supports our needs or understands our intent to provide a better education than they are used to in KSA. So is this really a big shock? I think its great they are taking notice of the problem, and in another 10 years, maybe we will see the much needed change in attitude towards education and teachers for that matter.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the original source:

http://www.webometrics.info/

It states that this is an organization based in Spain. I haven't heard of them before. Very interesting...

VS
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Saudi Gazette article gets it all wrong.

What is being ranked is not the academic standards of the university, nor the quality of the teaching, nor the quality of the research, but simply the web site.

This explains the dire Saudi position, and also the fact that the US dominate the top 50 positions, and that Cambridge University, considered the second in the world in academic ranking
http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006TOP500list.htm
comes 19th on the webmetrics form.
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Arab Strap



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was struck by the headline not the content sorry.........still I wonder what the truth is and how you can really measure the quality of an educational institution.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The content of the Saudi Gazette story is plain wrong, so the fault is not yours.

Perhaps we could have had another headline:
"Saudi newspapers the worst on the planet"?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Saudi Gazette is like "The Sun" or "Bild Zeitung" operating under strict censorship. IE. a tacky tabloid with none of the lurid scandals that make the former two rags a sometimes guilty pleasure.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
The Saudi Gazette is like "The Sun" or "Bild Zeitung" operating under strict censorship. IE. a tacky tabloid with none of the lurid scandals that make the former two rags a sometimes guilty pleasure.


As long as it's still got page 3, who cares?

Don't tell me it hasn't got page 3!
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Bild doesn't have Page 3 either! It does have lurid pictures of car crashes though....

None could be as obscene as your pic of a former Trotskiyite turned neo-con. That is "Hitch" in your avatar, is it not?
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
Actually, Bild doesn't have Page 3 either! It does have lurid pictures of car crashes though....

None could be as obscene as your pic of a former Trotskiyite turned neo-con. That is "Hitch" in your avatar, is it not?


Certainly is.

I take it you're not a fan.
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Queen of Sheba



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