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		ls650
 
  
  Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | With the exception of police officers and firefighters I've seen all of the above with piercings of some sort. | 
	 
 
I can't say that I've seen too many nuns with facial piercings... | 
			 
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		hlamb
 
 
  Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 431 Location: Canada
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I knew a woman once who worked as a secretary for a bus company in Canada. She threw resumes into the garbage if the applicant had any piercings or obvious tattoos. She told me it saved everyone some effort because her boss would not hire those people. There are so many factors involved in hiring that it is very hard to prove discrimination in a case like this. | 
			 
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		M@tt
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				i'm pretty sure that HR's job is to discriminate--between people they want working for them and people they don't. in many cases i think a piercing would be legitimate reason for them not to hire.
 
 
either way, i think in DF (which is the only place i can speak for even a little bit), businesses are conservative and would frown on facial piercings on a teacher. the type of place that might not mind would also probably be bottom of the ladder in terms of working conditions. | 
			 
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		dixie
 
  
  Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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				I'm currently in D.F working as a grade 4 English teacher.  I have 9 piercings in my ears (4 in one, 5 the other).  I also have a nose stud and a belly ring (however, that that one is never shown..obviously!)  When I was interviewed in Canada...the owner said I would have to take them out.  I don't like that...but it wasn't worth NOT getting the job over.  However, I got here, started working with all in...and nothing has ever been said to me!  Granted..the owner has only been at the school on several occassions as there are 4 campuses in the city and he works out of one in the North, but his mom (who originally started the place) is there twice a week as well as other admin staff.  So, I can happily say that I have been accepted...piercings and all.
 
 
HOWEVER...when I worked in Torreon, I had to remove my nose stud for work (the ones in my ears were okay) and I know that one of the teachers who worked there the year after I left, also had to do the same thing. SO really, I think it depends on presentation (the rest of your 'look'), the size of the piercings and the school/people who you are working for.  
 
 
Personally...I would leave it in for an interview and see what is said. | 
			 
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		MELEE
 
  
  Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				To the OP
 
 
Yesterday I gave a speaking exam to a student, well to many many students actually, I was at it all day. But there was this one student. He's a student of mine, he's in my classroom every day, but its a larger class, about 30 students. So he's in my office and I'm asking him boring questions about his daily routine (this is a level one class) and at one point he tips his head back to think, and the light reflects off something in his eyebrow. It's a piercing. One of those very small bar type ones and its black. He's has fairly dark skin and bushy black eyebrows. This was the perfect compromise piercing. In a room of 30 people no one would notice it. When he's off campus, he can change it if he wants. He doesn't need to take it out, and the admin probably has no idea that its there. Now it may be harder for a light skinned person to find one that will blend in, but its worth a try. | 
			 
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		J Sevigny
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I grew up in Miami and New York. I assumed everyone understood we were talking about non-conventional piercings -- eyebrows, lips and the like. Of course, lots of nuns and toll collectors have pierced ears. Not many have eyebrow piercings. 
 
 
My point was, and I'll make it again, that facial piercings are rare in the educational world and in the professional world at large. I think anyone over the age of 18 should understand what is meant by professional dress and should know that teachers are generally expected to comply with it. 
 
 
Again, this is not to criticize anyone's fashion preferences. The general rule of thumb, I think, is wear what you want on your own time. Companies and schools, however, do have rules. | 
			 
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		tonydicer
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				You may look like you just walked off the street
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		ls650
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Imagine if you were an employer, operating a professional business. | 
	 
 
As long as they had a professional attitude towards their work, I wouldn't give a damn if my employees had piercings.  It seems rather a petty thing to whine about. | 
			 
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		delacosta
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  As long as they had a professional attitude towards their work, I wouldn't give a damn if my employees had piercings. It seems rather a petty thing to whine about.
 
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I don't give a damn about how anyone wishes to modify/decorate/perforate their body either...but as a business owner I would definitely give a damn about my income. For example- I wouldn't want to send my English teachers to give classes to business executives in Mexico city, one of the most profitable niches of the English teaching market in this country,if they had inappropriate peiercings and /or tatoos. 
 
 
It wouldn't be a petty thing to whine about, just common sense. | 
			 
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		ls650
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Probably that's one of the reasons I don't run a business...  To me that is petty whining.     | 
			 
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		MELEE
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | , unless you are working at an Indian village, isolated on the Pacific coast. | 
	 
 
 
 
Kind of surprised neither of you guys took issue with this statement.    
 
 
But I think the whole package is what is important. There are tatoos and then there are tatoos. I think a small eye brow piercing does not exclude a person from looking professional. But usually these kinds of things seem to come in groups. Seems like often once you get one unconventional piercing more follow. I don't think we can say, no way no how, without looking at the person in question. | 
			 
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		Samantha
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I took issue, but chose not to respond....Proud of myself    | 
			 
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		delacosta
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Nor I. I'm purty sure that guy lives under a bridge, comes out once in a while and sees who he can snag. | 
			 
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		Guy Courchesne
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Credit where credit's due...the post was multi-syllabic.  New and improved trolling. | 
			 
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		TEFL anonymous
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I agree that it depends on the general appearance of the teacher. I think that sometimes there can be negative connotations for people with visible piercings; but in my experience if you're discreet then there's rarely a problem. 
 
 
 I've worked in various countries in businesses, language schools and a convent, with a nose piercing, 3 studs in each ear and two tongue bars. I've always bought the issue up with new employers and have never had a problem because I have small studs in my nose and ears and I put clear balls on my tongue piercings to make them less visible. 
 
 
 
I'd take out everything but my tongue piercings during work - they close up in an hour and I do what I can to camouflage them... There's always an employer who can see beyond the lump of metal that you've chosen to stick through your skin and see what your actual teaching skills are! | 
			 
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