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tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

Rumsfeld was the most interesting character of the last decade. I will miss him terribly. His press confrences during the iraqi invasion were the most entertaining thing on TV. Inside this mans mind are all the darkest secrets of our time. Brought up during the second world war he must have felt a sense of acomplishment that his war killed only a fraction of the people that other wars did. He was confident that the invasion was the right thing to do and he didn't do it for personal gain. He was a media star that transformed gradually but completly into a devil, hated by all. A warmonger who was first cheered and then despised. History will remember him as the single most influencal man of the early 21st century.

Delpha · Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 32 Location: USA

God save us from the Military-Industrial Complex that this "Fortune 500" businessman helped to proliferate.

Shocked

Hector_Lector · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 548

EVIL PURE EVIL

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

Otterman Ollie · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:12 am Post subject:

Wasn't he the one who said "There are things we know that we don't know, these are known unknowns,and there are things we don't know, we don't know ,these are unknown unknowns????????????? wtf????????
I think there was a bit more to it than that but basically it was bollox!Sounds like he would make a great teacher trainer .Just close your eyes and imagine that for a nanosecond !

tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

Firstly, no man is "pure evil" because the concept only exists in fiction. Secondly, the history of Republician presidents has been such that the dummy goes on top to talk to the uneducated masses and the brains are the people who surround him. The exception to this was Nixon who fought his way up from the bottom. Rumsfeld hired V.P. Cheney back in the 70's and the two have been a team since. Rumsfeld was the one who kicked the Iraqi invasion into gear and this is the defigning conflict of our time. The experiment with democracy in an Arab country is a test for the universal applicability of the system and the long term global political dynamics of America's control of Middle Eastern oil will defign the balence of power in a multi polar world. The Sept 11 attacks may have even been organized by him or like minded people with the knowledge that they were the right people at the right time in the right places. I hope for the sake of the world that the americans will not be successful but I hope for the sake of Iraq that they will be able to stabilize the country.

tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

who are you talking about?? no one in the bush administration is religious.

TeachEnglish · Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 239

İ hope the truth about the whys and what fors comes out sooner than later. I want to be around to hear it and have the opportunity to think about facts and then pass judgement. I hope this operation is successful if the people of Iraq and the world will benefit from it. As for now, İraq is a mess and they are killing each other and soon, maybe there won't be anyone there to worry about. İf Rumsfield, Bush, and Blair are responsible for breaking some laws, they should stand trial like anyone else. İt would set a precedent for the rest of the world to follow. Peace

tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

they are all war criminals but they will never stand trial

Golightly · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject:

Ah, but Rumsfeld was such a sensitive soul...
the poetry of donald rumsfeld

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

furiousmilksheikali · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:13 am Post subject:

The neo-con ranks were always divided during the whole of the build-up to Iraq and the subsequent debacle. Although there was a public face to the whole thing, usually talking about WMDs and terrorism the fact was that there were different motives for all the different sides.

Rumsfeld probably didn't care about democracy in Iraq but he did have his own pet projects such as his vision of the new military and it was his ardent belief that a smaller, more mobile army was superior to the planning that had gone before that lead to the crisis that followed.

Cheney seems to be the beneficiary of all the contracts that went to Halliburton and definitely could have been a major motivating factor.

Wolfowitz and Perle may have genuinely believed in the possibility of installing democracy there and they were quite outspoken about increasing the number of troops to do this.

Still others have no doubt been devising ways in which to secure long-term aims of controlling the World's oil supplies.

Iraq may seem of major importance now but wait until certain demographic trends in the Middle East reach a critical level (particularly the Israel/Palestine issue) as well as the new footing that Iran and Syria have.

Also, East Asia could blow up into a conflict akin to the First World War, only with nuclear weapons. India and Pakistan aren't exactly best friends either. Any of these flashpoints would make Iraq seem like a minor playground scuffle.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

yaramaz · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:12 am Post subject:

Hey Guy, your movie on your blog totally rocks. Can cats audition too? Or can they only be considered for evil villain roles?

tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

Yes the gap between the rich and the poor is definitly as new conflict as Henry Cowell says, certianly before our time there were no problems there.... everyone was treated equally and they were all middle class.
for example :ancient Rome, Egypt, Ottoman times, Middle ages, France in the 18th century. "let them eat cake" must mean they all had cake right???