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jlcozzens



Joined: 11 Nov 2006
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Location: Moving

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: BS only a 2 year degree Reply with quote

Hello,
My Bachelors Degree is not a 2 year degree, it was a 4 year degree. But with CLEP and Summer schools, and certain "Challenging" of Courses, I was able to finish all the work (4 years worth) in 2 years. It was not that hard, just a lot of papers and other useless stuff that I realized was not very important when I was in CHina. I always bragged to my friends because I never took notes, I just figured that it was relevant and interesting I could remember it without writing it down. Masters level is even easier as it is so little exam and so much thinking and writing. I am American, near Boston. I realized in China that a foreign teacher is a cool job in the sense that I was respected more in China than in America and life is very easy and relaxed and colorful if one can make some friends with the students or teachers or even the locals. The key for me also is that I love football (soccer) and imagine that Saudi will be a great place for me to play everyday. I want to find a job in Saudi around the Summer or Fall term 2007 and work for 2 years. ALso, education in America is really becoming more and more student-centered with less and less focus on exams and more and more on papers and creativity. I did work fairly hard to finish my degree so quick, but in my opinion, surviving the winters and monsoons in China was much more difficult. Ha, ha, not joking.
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kilometro parado wrote:
....my experience....10 years teaching ESL students from ....Vienam....China.....Laos...Thailand....Bosnia....Albanania....Sierra Leone...Sudan...Ethiopia....Mexico...Cuba....Dominican Republic....to name a few....and more recently Saudi Arabia

It seems you have beaten the world record in English teaching!!!!
Teaching in more than 12 countries within a span of 10 years�.which means you stayed less than one year for each country!!!
Even Kofi Annan or the Pope did not visit 12 countries within the span of 10 years !!! you must be famous � Laughing
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Stephen Jones



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The key for me also is that I love football (soccer) and imagine that Saudi will be a great place for me to play everyday.
You'll drop dead of heat exhaustion. Bear in mind that hard training has never been a characterstic of the Saudi National Team (there was one foreign manager who was taken off duty after a week because he had this strange obsession with daily training).
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guty



Joined: 10 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

007, he said teaching students from ....
not teaching in......
I have had single classes with more than 12 nationalities in, no world records there.

I also played football with my students in Saudi, it is a good way to meet them socially, as it is anywhere in the world. Playing in the evenings cuts out the worst of the heat. It is also a safe topic of conversation.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Playing in the evenings cuts out the worst of the heat.
Not in the middle of summer it doesn't
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why all the agonizing over how long it takes to get an MA? Masters and doctoral degrees can actually be obtained nowadays in a very short time...just as long as it takes to browse the net, write the cheque and wait for the postman! Or in some cases, you can pay by card and then download immediately!!

Personally, I wouldn't dream of paying for a doctorate online. No way, as it goes against all my principles.

No, I would just do out my own and then print on nice parchment paper.

Mafi Mushkila Laughing
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Bebsi wrote:
... Masters and doctoral degrees can actually be obtained nowadays in a very short time...just as long as it takes to browse the net, write the cheque and wait for the postman! Or in some cases, you can pay by card and then download immediately!!
Mafi Mushkila Laughing


Fih 1000 Mushkilas Laughing

According to the diploma mill expert, John Bear, the number of diploma mills on the Internet has grown from 200 to 800 in the period 2000-2004, generating over EUR 400 million per year. The lifeblood of this industry is advertisement.
In order to evade the authorities, diploma mills constantly change name and address, moving from one US state to another, from one country to another.
For a long time California was a haven for diploma mills.
As the 4 California state laws regulating education tightened in the early 1990s, many diploma mills moved to Hawaii.
Following the logics of offshore banking, the latest trend among US diploma mills is, however, to leave the US altogether and either reappear in territories in the South Pacific or Caribbean (commonly linked to the British Crown) or small Third World countries with little or no oversight of private institutions, or cultures of government corruption.
John Bear has identified 58 fake degree websites mainly offering fake degrees and transcripts from North American universities. Some noteworthy international dealers, however, sell fake degrees from virtually any university in the world. For example, the China-based fake degree provider www.backalleypress.com offers high-quality degrees and transcripts from 1,000 universities worldwide. The �do-it-yourself� option is provided by the website www.fakedegrees.com that deals in degree and transcript templates.
* Gollin, G., Unconventional University Diplomas from Online Vendors: Buying a Ph.D. From a University That Doesn't Exist, September 2003 , http://www.hep.uiuc.edu/home/g-gollin/diploma_mills.pdf

So, if your qualification is obtained using online, check its validity!
And TAKE ACTION! Become a part of the solution! Laughing

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